BGen Kristin Goodwin and the USAFA Honor Code
We will not lie, steal, or cheat, nor tolerate among us anyone who does.
– US Air Force Academy Honor Code
Integrity first. Service before self. Excellence in all we do.
– US Air Force Core Values
BGen(S) Kristin Goodwin, soon to be the newest Commandant of Cadets at the US Air Force Academy, commissioned into the Air Force with the Academy Class of 1993.
The policy known as “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” was instated in February of 1994. Anyone who entered the military prior to that date answered a question about homosexuality during the enlistment process. Those who answered in the affirmative were refused enlistment.
How was Col Goodwin — an open homosexual — able to enter the Air Force?
This isn’t actually a new question. Since the repeal of DADT, it has been evident a few senior military leaders who are homosexual entered the military prior to 1994. (For the record, their enlistment itself isn’t generally questioned, as the statute of limitations on UCMJ Article 83 (Fraudulent Enlistment) has long expired.)
Ultimately, questions of those prior accessions to military service won’t come to much, just as they haven’t since the repeal of DADT. The general post-DADT issue will, however, be a fascinating discussion point for the USAFA cadet classes Col Goodwin will oversee — as the cadets practically venerate the Honor Code (in spirit, if not in deed).
No doubt someone will work a hypothetical story into an early Philosophy class, which normally includes the nearly clichéd “is it wrong to steal bread if your children are starving?” or “is it wrong to lie if you were hiding Jews from the Nazis during World War II?” type of discussions.
It could make for a fascinating thought experiment.
Is it “wrong” to lie to enter the US military — or the Air Force, whose first core value is “integrity”? Is it wrong to “live a lie” as a cadet under the Honor Code?
What if you eventually become a leader, a General, or the Commandant of Cadets — now charged with enforcing that standard of integrity and honor?
If nothing else, the contradictory complexity of society’s relativistic morality lends even more support to the need for unchanging, absolute morality — that is, the Truth of Scripture. With some grace for human application, you do not have to spend time explaining why what was once wrong is now right (it’s rarely vice versa) if the moral code that serves as your foundation does not change.
And God’s Word doesn’t change.
The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of our God will stand forever.
Isaiah 40:8
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Benevolent believers use religion to promote love, tolerance and acceptance. Bigoted believers use religion to promote hatred, intolerance and discrimination.
You know not of what you speak. You assume that believers are “bigots” because they don’t tolerate sin. Conservative Christianity is statistically more loving than so-called “Liberal-Christians”. The Christian Right is the one that donates more time, money, and effort to feeding the homeless, giving Christmas presents to children of prisoners, and building schools in developing countries.
Homosexuals are the real bigots; they are bigots because anything that dares to disagree with their insane worldview is labeled “hate” and “fascist”. Homosexuals are the only ones discriminating people for having conservative beliefs. The so-called “hate” that you think the Christian Right is making does not exist. Period. I have never seen it, all my research shows that only one church (Westboro Baptist Church) actively discriminates against homosexuals.
Check your privilege.
“It does not require many words to speak the truth.” – CHIEF JOSEPH, Nez Perez Nation
“Nor does it take many words to speak a lie.” -Me
With all due respect Mr. Compere, you are a complete idiot. Those who scream for tolerance are the most intolerant of them all!!!
God does not ask us to be tolerant of sin, whether it be homosexuality, beastiality, sex out of wedlock, adultery, stealing, extra-marital affairs. God calls all believers to fight against sin and it is liberals like yourself that call us bigots for following the commands of God Almighty! God’s Word says that in the last days, people (YOU) will call evil good and good evil!!!
By the way, who in the world, is Chief Joseph? Sounds like you are putting the words of a mere man over the Word of God!! You need Jesus Mr. Compere plain and simple. You are affiliated with an anti-Christ person in Mikey Weinstein and MRFF is completely out to get Christians out of the military, but you are so blinded by Satan to see that along with all the rest of the heathen horde of MRFF!
With all due respect BF, you are a complete idiot. You don’t understand what “tolerance” is. Religious conservatives have twisted and distorted “tolerance” and “religious freedom” into the allowing of persecution of gays and anyone else who doesn’t go along with their backward, ignorant beliefs.
I’m sorry to tell you that your beliefs are based on nothing more than childish fairy tales written by backwards nomadic people 3,000 years ago. There’s no such thing as “magic fruit”. Snakes never had the ability to speak. There never was a world-wide flood. The hundreds of “prophecies” jesus supposedly fulfilled are all mistranslations, distortions, and verses taken out of context. All of the miracles jesus supposedly performed were inventions of his followers. Please do some searches on these “prophesies” and claims instead of accepting them as absolute truth without question. You have a brain. Use it.
You have every right to believe in childish fairy tales, but you do not have the right to persecute others in the name of them, or of some fictitious god.
F[Redacted] You!
Mind your Own G[Redacted]n Business and DO Your Job!
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Welcome to SillyTown. Unless it is significantly different than the other branches, the USAF is not run by a mythical supernatural superhero nor controlled by its legends and superstitions.
MRFF is one of America’s most important safeguards against religious fanatics controlling our armed services.
Compere is a devotee of Weinstein.
F[redacted] all you religious [redacted]holes.
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I had heard you were one of us, *wink* *wink*
Glad it’s finally been confirmed.
Have a blessed day
Btw, she wasn’t a lesbian in 1993, by definition, and after 1994 and DADT, she was. And that’s OK.
At the time, I suspect she exercised her right to privacy given it is a constitutional right. They used to ask religious preference and no one had to answer that “truthfully” either. If they were atheist or satanic I’m pretty sure they would have put NRP just to check the box.
Just so you know… This post was linked on the liberal cesspool known as Daily Kos. Expect a flood of “tolerant” liberals polluting your site with their insanity.
http://m.dailykos.com/stories/1647795
How interesting a comment. Yes, I found this site through Daily Kos and I am one of those “tolerant” liberals and an atheist to boot. I am also a graduate of the United States Air Force Academy, Class of 1965 and a combat veteran, having navigated 126 missions in SEA in the B-52D.
Having seen for myself the bigotry and intolerance of a small segment of Evangelical Christians, nothing here surprises me, so I just have to say I support the MRFF and sincerely hope someone in command finally comes to their senses and puts an end to the “Christian Fighter Pilot’s” career.
Wow. How “tolerant” of you. Wanting to end someone’s career because you don’t agree with them.
Thanks for proving my point.
Are you still on active duty? Have you never heard of Punitive Articles of the UCMJ?
Article 133: (3) Examples of offenses…..using insulting or defamatory language to another officer in that officer’s presence or about that officer to other military persons; …
I think you should contact JAG before you slander a superior officer; SUPERIOR both in rank and in character.
“The man doth protest too much, methinks.”
-Hamlet
Welcome to the family, Mr. Compere.
BTW, you may want to check with JAG about using a child’s face without permission. Even if you can use it without permission, what kind of person would? Why are you obsessed with homosexuals? These are questions your followers should be asking.
I’m curious. What evidence do you have that she was an outed lesbian at the time of her entry? That she even knew she was lesbian? I assume you believe that no one is born a lesbian yes? So, I’m going to guess based on your beliefs, that everyone is really heterosexual by nature, but choose for “perverse” reasons to be homosexual yes? (Because why would a loving God create someone naturally homosexual and then ban it, correct?).
If I have it wrong, let me know.
But, assuming arguendo that is true, then I’ll ask, do you have some evidence to show she had made that “choice” prior to entry onto active duty? If you do not, then you just accused a senior officer of a crime with no evidence…which is a pretty ballsy violation of the UCMJ.
Not to mention that if you were truly tied to vows, you’d recognize that the organization that you choose to serve has said and mandated that all people of whatever sexual orientation are equally able to serve. So why haven’t you retired if you feel this strongly about gays in the military? Why compromise your religious beliefs and your vows in such a way?
No one is born homosexual. The sin of homosexuality is a choice, and it is a result of the fall (Gen. 3).
JD has not accused a senior officer of a crime. JD never said that she was an out lesbian at the time of entry. Asking a question is not the same as accusing someone of misconduct.
Rodda’s article is just another one of the MRFF’s desperate attempts that will fail again–guaranteed.
I am not surprised to see the angry, homosexual supporting responses. It exposes their hatred not for JD–but against God.
This is why homosexual supporters need to repent, and turn to Jesus (Mark 1:15).
Thank God for people like BGen Kristin Goodwin and what she has done for our country. Sad to see that jealousy has reared it’s ugly head and certain people can’t deal with having a strong woman who has advanced more than those bigots who are showing that they are whiney little creepers who obviously have nothing better to do with their life than to push their hate. Hate not a very “Christian” thing to be pushing is it? I just wonder what the next obsessive rant will be about. Seems this one trick pony doesn’t even have a real trick just a whole bunch of hate as do his readers. How can the low life that writes this post even claim to be a Christian since he is not in any way Christlike. As a matter of fact he is so far from being Christlike he makes Atheists seem more Christian than he is. here’s a tip for you dude “GET A FREAKIN LIFE & BECOME A GOOD PERSON! I’m sure it will be hard for you but if you truly want to be a TRUE Christian you can do it. All things thru Christ are possible!
JW, do you know why God does not approve of homosexuality? It is because God is not a homosexual. This is why Christians cannot tolerate the perverted acts of homosexuality, and why Christians must love homosexuals enough to tell them the truth: They must repent. This is not hate. It is a hate crime to know the truth (1 Cor. 6:9-10), and not tell someone the truth.
Here is my message to you: One day, God will judge in His righteousness. Since you seem to approve of sexual immorality, I thought you should know this:
“Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them” (Romans 1:32).
Homosexuality is a sin according to the word of God and as a Christian we are to love the sinner but hate the sin. It’s too bad the left is so full of hypocrisy and hate to really understand.
Those who obsess the most about homosexuality usually turn out to be the most deeply closeted. I hope Christian Fighter Pilot finds some love and self acceptance and soon turns his energies to more positive Christian activities such as comforting the afflicted and afflicting the comfortable. Blessings.
Lor,
I want you to seriously consider how viciously circular your argument is: When you ask Christianfighterpilot.com to accept homosexuality, you are asking them to accept some of the sins that sent Jesus Christ to the cross. This proves that you have no clue what “positive” Christian activities are, since you appear to be defending sexual immorality.
Also, your love and tolerance message is typical for a homosexual supporting liberal. We are well aware that when someone disagrees with you, we will see just how unloving, and intolerant you become.
SH, I’m am simply hoping that CFP can accept HIMSELF. I believe one should remove the mote in their own eye before the speck in someone else’s. We can all look at ourselves and find ways to become more Christlike. And CFP does not seem to want to do that. Neither do you, SH. Sexuality is private and not anyone’s business but your own. Mind your own affairs, pray for the queers if you feel they are sinners, but judge not… least YOU be judged.
@Lor
Why don’t you read the rest of the verse that you quoted “judge not lest you be judged.” Christ was not saying not to judge, but judge rightly. Everyone judges every single day. If we are not to judge, then let us fire every single judge that sit on every court of the land including the Supreme Court! Do not judges judge between who is right or wrong in a case? We all make judgment decisions every day.
“There is no argument in the world that carries the hatred that a religious belief one does.” – MARK TWAIN
Hmmmm…
Glancing at the hateful, intolerant posts at Daily Kos regarding this matter proves Mr. Twain wrong…. unless he was referring to the militant athiest left arguing against religious beliefs.
Thanks for the reminder that the ability to fly an airplane is proof of nothing special (I used to think differently), otherwise a godawful drooling moron like you wouldn’t be able to do such a thing.
Mr. Cleaver, please try hard not to be an intolerant, and unloving bigot just because someone holds to different beliefs than you do.
JD’s argument is a theological argument, and not a personal attack.
It is sad that your emotive response appears to be a personal attack against his service in the US military. If this is your intent, shame on you. JD is a combat experienced fighter pilot. I am honored to call him a friend, and brother in Christ.
@SP
Liberals have turned intolerance into bigotry. Since when do Christians have to tolerant what God hates and calls sin. That is why God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, because He could no longer tolerant their sin of homosexuality!!
So, what is your logical and documented proof that what is in the bible is childish fairy tales or is that your ignorant mind just thinking? As well, what is your documented proof that all the prophecies that Jesus did fulfill were miss-translations, distortions and verses taken out of context. Are you a scholar at biblical translation and contextual criticism or again are you just repeating what some other biblical ignorant person has said?
@John Compere,
Dear Mr. Compere, you quoting another man who is just as fallible as the next man carries no wait as if it were inerrant scripture.
May I recommend something to you, stick to your day job and leave theology to those who have studied it for a long time please.
Judging by the comments here, if LGBTs and liberals are receiving hate, they have earned it.
Spoken like the true [Redacted] nozzle you are. Lgbt people experience far more discrimination than your entitled [Redacted]. I’m sure you do oh so much “research” on people being beaten or worse just for existing as an lgbt person. You’re exactly what is wrong with this country- you think because you believe in some religion that you can push people around? Go f[Redacted] yourself.
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Lor,
CFP has accepted himself. The writer of CFP knows very well that he was made in the image of God, and is a sinner. This describes every created human being.
When you use the “judge not lest you be judged” remark, you are twisting Scripture (2 Pet. 3:15-17). You are simply referencing a few words in the Bible, and omitting the rest. Why is this an issue? It is because Satan twists the Scripture (Matt. 4:1-11). You should not be emulating what the Devil does.
Matthew 7 (judge not) is a command to not judge hypocritically. The CFP is not a forum on homosexual perverts. It is a blog that unashamedly heralds Christ, and defends the Constitution. Therefore, the CFP is not hypocritically telling others that homosexuality wrong.
If you think sexuality is private, you are patently wrong. Since you like to quote Scripture (judge not), here is another you should consider reading: “For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open” (Luke 8:17). You see, one day, Christ will judge for your words (Matt. 12:36) and deeds (Matt. 16:27). No one can escape this.
It is obvious that you are not a Christian. Therefore, I must warn you to not tell others to be more Christ-like, since you have no clue what this means, and because your worldview is wicked. I say this in love. Do not bring anymore reproach upon Christ. Repent, and believe in the Gospel (1 Cor. 15:1-4), and tell others to do the same (Matt. 28:18-20). This is the only hope for homosexuals (1 Cor. 6:11), and those who support this vile act.
Respectfully,
SH – you have no proof that no one is born homosexual. I totally understand christians strongly believe and you have read it in the bible, but this alone does not make it so. John Hopkins Research did a study a few years back and those results were inconclusive; which resulted in significant consternation on both side of the isle, because they all want to be right. If science can prove it, then it must be so, but in this and every case study I’ve read, the jury is still out.
What I found compelling from the authors of the JHR study was, “Sexual orientation and gender identity resist explanation by simple theories. There is a large gap between the certainty with which beliefs are held about these matters and what a sober assessment of the science reveals. In the face of this complexity and uncertainty, we need to be humble about what we know and do not know”.
I believe it would be a better world if science could prove everything, but in this case I highly doubt it ever will. A biblical world-view of the matter is also highly unlikely. In America (and other countries), people are free to choose who they want to be with, and I am comfortable with that, mostly because in my simplistic and humble opinion, I’d rather live free, or die.
@watchtower
Ultimately, the “born this way” argument is somewhat academic. We’re all sinners. The only question is whether we’ll repent and accept forgiveness.
Watchtower, your argument begs the question.
You appear to have no answer to my argument, other than presenting a hypothesis that appeals to a ipse dixit and ad-populous. It is intellectually dishonest to assume that I have no proof, especially since you have not stated an ultimate standard, and you appear to have capitulated to everyone else’ perplexity.
I do not affirm the Bible just because I assume it is sufficient and infallible, otherwise I would also be begging the question. I affirm the biblical worldview, because without it, it would be impossible to account for the validity of strict principles, uniformity of nature, science, induction, Laws of Logic, ethics, metaphysics, epistemology, aesthetics, and the ability for our mind to understand the world. This is pertinent since it would also be impossible to investigate claims to know if something is true or false.
My argument is guided by the premise that the Bible is not just the only rule of faith that I appeal to—it is also the ultimate standard. This is not assumed—it is a necessary precondition to make knowledge claims. Since I affirm the Bible as the ultimate standard, I cannot appeal to any other standard, otherwise my argument would be nullified, as an ultimate standard cannot appeal to a lesser standard of faith and practice, otherwise, this would be a viciously circular problem.
I have proven my ultimate standard. The biblical worldview is not just “a” standard of truth—it is “the” only standard of truth that is self attesting. This is how I justify my affirmations. Can you say the same?
Very Respectfully,
@Watchtower,
There is no absolute proof whatsoever that homosexuals are born that way! There is no gay gene, if anything there is a sin gene which we are all born with. People choose to be gay or not based upon their sinful flesh and desires!
God’s desire is to set every one free and deliver everyone who is in bondage to sin, whatever that sin might be. There are countless homosexuals who have come to Christ who He has set free and who has changed their unnatural affections to natural affections to those of the opposite sex!
Yup Zion, I know, no proof either way. No one can say for sure. It’s currently unknowable. Its a choice for some, but not for others. The only standard we can use is empirical evidence, no biblical or scientific theories exists–I copy.
SH – you do not need to prove your ultimate standard to me, I understand how you feel and why. My standard is not defined one way or another until I have a means to apply a standard. I have not been able to understand or apply a biblical view or standard on much at all, primarily because I find the premise of a deity extremely unlikely, but I’m ok with those that can/do; it is a choice or free will to do so. If this means I’m lost, I’m ok with that too.
And what about all those deceivers who lied about their age to join the military? Like that 14-year-old Jack Lucas, who forged his folks’ signatures to join the Marine Corps. Probably only got caught because he jumped on a grenade to save fellow Marines on Iwo Jima. He survived, but being awarded the Medal of Honor had a way of making officials take a closer look at the lad.
Maybe Christian Fighter Pilot sees not a heroic young man in Lucas, but a sinful kid who lived a lie as a Marine.
@Bryant Jordan
Interesting that you don’t see the irony — or hypocrisy — in your own comment.
But you did often seem to have a problem separating your personal agenda from your reporting.
A classmate and a good friend asked me about this. I was unequivocal in my response in that my sole concern was if BGen Goodwin had been a good commander. I knew her at the Academy and she was a top-notch cadet. The question ate at me though. Not because I’m conflicted about the issue, but what is the right answer when a person is faced with what has proven to be an unjust law, rule, guideline, etc). I approached the situation from 3 standpoints: The Law, Morality and Reality. From a legal standpoint, in the same way that miscegenation was once illegal and is no longer, those who broke that law are not penalized as it has been determined to have been an unjust set of laws. Would we question or hold up the promotion of someone who broke a race-mixing law from back in the day?
On morality – it is relative and the tide has changed in this nation. I will leave this argument alone for the time being.
The reality of the situation – It may not be my place, but she dated a male cadet at the Zoo so who is to say when her current lifestyle became an “issue”. The only concern should be, is she capable of leading those under her.
When it comes to addressing an unjust situation, I look at the case of Trevor Noah who was born under apartheid and states his parents had to walk on the opposite side of the street when they went a somewhere as a family (black mother, white father) for fear of being jailed. What guidance would you have given him at the time, if he had been asked who his parents were?
@True Blue
Ideology aside, your response has been one of the most thoughtful — and, for the most part, you seem to have read the question rather than presupposed an argument based upon personal prejudice.
Morality and ethics shouldn’t be situation-based — or else they become dependent upon the people involved in the situation, rather than that which is right and wrong.
In that regard, morality isn’t really relative — though the application of it in American culture certainly is. To wit, that which was wrong is still wrong — as a society, though, it seems we often no longer care.
No doubt, American citizens have a “right to be wrong.” As Christians, it is sometimes disheartening to see how many people would choose the wrong.
I don’t recall being asked about my sexual orientation during the application or intake process at the Air Force Academy.
I have no doubt this entire “honor” position is just a facade for bigotry and misogyny. And it illuminates issues of concern within the author himself versus a fair examination of Goodwin’s career.
But I would like evidence that we were asked to identify our sexual orientation so that I can understand how far back into this blog post the facade was built.
@JWASJW
You didn’t say when you entered USAFA, so its impossible to know if the question was even asked. Even if you are old enough to have been in the right “era,” it seems many people don’t recall it — probably because it was an irrelevant non-issue for them. But it was part of the military’s enlistment process prior to 1994.
A little Google research on the military pre-DADT should answer your question. It’s not hard to find because there are plenty of homosexual veterans who have talked/written about how they dealt with that question.
In fact, the sexuality question was so common knowledge it even made it into a movie.
@JWASJW
Can you please share what the SJW stands for regarding Jesus?
I think SJW means “Social Justice Warrior” but I could be wrong.
For SA, I was talking to a friend of mine that graduated from the AF Academy in ’92, he doesn’t recall a sexual preference question, but he did say he knew of several LGBT’s in his class. Non-issue then, they kept it on the DL, and no one seemed to care; and if anyone had issues they kept them to themselves.
I look forward to her success. Her sexuality is a non issue
LJH, you are not the authority of life and death. Therefore, your opinion means nothing.
Please read:
“Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God (1 Cor. 6:9-10).”
I am not homosexual but I have served with Airmen and Officers who were/are and they were outstanding Air Force officers, in my opinion.
As officers we are taught, way back in OTS and/or MIMSO that illegal orders do not have to be followed. An inferred order, i.e. “complete this form” which contained the question asking if the respondent was homosexual is, was, an illegal order.
The DOD was attempting to steal her prerogative to non-self disclosure protected under the constitution. Therefore her refusal to state she was homosexual WAS in line with the Honor Code by her refusal to tolerate someone (i.e. the DOD) who lied (i.e stated homosexuality would destroy the cohesion fighting/flying units) and attempted to steal from her.
There is no difference from the prejudice being used against BG Goodwin, in logic, that the attempt to keep blacks out of the military and will seem just as ignorant 25 years from now as the concept of the segregated military was.
Alright, let the Trolls begin . . .
How the hell is it that a bigot like this is still in uniform? This is the worst behaviour I’ve seen outside of ISIS.
That is right Rev. Curts, all atheists and LGBTS should be expunged from the military for their anti-Christian bigotry.
And judge not lest ye be judged…..Matthew 7:1-3…… Take the Mote out of your eye! Leave her alone! You sir are ignorant and know nothing about my God!!! She has flown a B-2…, former Commander of a Base!!!!! She will not judge your hatred when she is training those Cadets while you enjoy your freedom! She has been protecting your freedom while you judge others. In case you have forgotten or you don’t know…. being a Christian starts with YOUR relationship with Christ and he teaches to love OTHERS! And to be witnesses for Him!!!! Geez!!!! Maybe you should start with the book of John.
Sexual deviants should not shape our nations youth, especially the future defenders of our country.
Deviancy is in the eye of the beholder. Perhaps you should look at your subjective standards.
How lucky we are that all men and women can serve in the Air Force today, without exclusion based on race, gender, or sexual orientation. I’m proud to serve alongside Brigadier General Goodwin. Though I don’t personally know what it would be like to struggle with a masked sexual orientation in a pre-DADT military, I can only imagine it to be a deeply challenging personal, and morally complex, issue.
As a straight male who had a gay, closeted roommate at USAFA, I can say, “Yes, I would lie to protect a victim of persecution,” and I would certainly not condemn any victim of homophobia who lied under the same circumstances.
If I were religious, I would pray that those who are troubled by Brigadier General Goodwin’s history, reflect on Christ’s compassion, and spend less time judging (leave that to the creator), and more time imagining what it would be like to walk a mile in someone else’s shoes.
Dr. S
USAFA 2001
I know personally many USAFA graduates who are gay, have had gender change, etc. The USAFA is no different from any other group of individuals. The difference is that they try to hold themselves to a standard that is artificial. I guarantee you will never find a USAFA grad who has never lied. Get over yourselves and focus on what matters. The defense of America…the only question that needs to be asked of any warrior is if they are good at their job an are willing to fight for their country. PERIOD!
p.s. Why do so may poster not use their names? Are you not proud enough of your beliefs to post your names?
Shari – I don’t use my name because I do not trust anyone. Freedom of speech is supposed to be protected, but we all know it isn’t. If the wrong person disagrees in the slightest of what a person says their life could be ruined. Anyone that works in government knows this very well, even our troops are subject to censorship.
We MUST have two faces, one public and one private, and in the US, for good reason. Our liberties are slowly being whittled away, and I believe one day soon there will be no anonymity on the internet because governments want total control of everyone.
I know, crazy…right?
@Shari,
Jesus Rose to Save Homosexual Sinners
http://www.theconservativepundit.net/2017/04/jesus-rose-save-homosexual-sinners/
You had said before Shari that we are all God’s children, well biblically we are not. Unless you have accepted Jesus Christ as you Lord and Savior, you are not a child of God.
Romans 5:10
For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.