{"id":9928,"date":"2011-03-09T03:00:38","date_gmt":"2011-03-09T08:00:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/?p=9928"},"modified":"2015-06-27T19:15:28","modified_gmt":"2015-06-27T22:15:28","slug":"rock-beyond-belief-equitable-treatment-or-atheist-discrimination","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/03\/09\/rock-beyond-belief-equitable-treatment-or-atheist-discrimination\/","title":{"rendered":"Rock Beyond Belief: Equitable Treatment, or Atheist Discrimination?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Michael Weinstein&#8217;s &#8220;religious freedom&#8221; foundation has raised a hullabaloo over the <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/03\/04\/rock-beyond-belief-cancelled-weinstein-promises-lawsuit\/\">decision by organizers to cancel<\/a> the atheist &#8220;counter-event&#8221; to last year&#8217;s Christian &#8220;Rock the Fort.&#8221;\u00a0 Quoth the ever-eloquent Weinstein:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>There is a DoD Directive which says that the Department of Defense may never provide a selective benefit for one entity and not provide the same benefit for another, and the Billy Graham Evangelical Society received a benefit that was not afforded to Rock Beyond Belief.\u00a0 They have treated us horribly.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Weinstein and supporters of the &#8220;Rock Beyond Belief&#8221; event claim the &#8220;horrible&#8221; treatment is a result of being treated <em>differently<\/em> than &#8220;Rock the Fort,&#8221; or that the military &#8220;reneged&#8221; on its promise of the &#8220;same support&#8221; for RBB as RtF. \u00a0This &#8220;disparate&#8221; treatment, then, is proof the military is actually trying to <em>promote<\/em> Christianity.<\/p>\n<p>Then again, Weinstein thinks <em>everything<\/em> is proof of some sort of\u00a0Christian conspiracy.<\/p>\n<p>The long and short of it is that there is a process by which Fort Bragg <!--more-->approves events and their support to them &#8212; and, at least for the time being, only a few people know exactly what that process is.\u00a0\u00a0It appears evident\u00a0Fort Bragg decided &#8220;Rock Beyond Belief&#8221; met the minimum requirements for support; thus, it <em>approved<\/em> the event.\u00a0 It did not approve the requested venue (the parade grounds), but instead offered a theatre based on the description of the event as\u00a0primarily non-chart-making speakers and musical performers.<\/p>\n<p>While it might not be the desired outcome for RBB, the venue and justification do not seem unreasonable.\u00a0 Weinstein apparently disagrees.<\/p>\n<p>RBB must stand on its own with regard to meeting the requirements for support &#8212; it did so, and it was approved.\u00a0\u00a0The only caveat is Fort Bragg cannot deny support to &#8220;Rock Beyond Belief&#8221; purely because of its ideology, because Fort Bragg has supported events of other ideologies in the past (&#8220;Rock the Fort&#8221;).\u00a0 Beyond that, the proper standard is <em>equitable<\/em> treatment, not <em>equal<\/em> treatment.\u00a0 For example, an event with a projected attendance of 400 is not <em>comparable<\/em> to one with a projected attendance of 4,000; one composed exclusively of lecturers is not <em>comparable<\/em> to one composed exclusively of athletic events.\u00a0\u00a0The non-<em>comparable<\/em> events\u00a0are reasonably <em>not<\/em> entitled to identical\u00a0levels of support.<\/p>\n<p>There is no indication at this point that Fort Bragg&#8217;s process unfairly discriminated against &#8220;Rock Beyond Belief,&#8221;\u00a0or that any decision made about RBB had anything to do with its ideology.\u00a0\u00a0It appears Weinstein is making demands for <em>special <\/em>treatment, rather than <em>similar<\/em>\u00a0treatment to every other event.\u00a0 Given the public statements, it appears that\u00a0unless Fort Bragg volunteered <em>precisely the same<\/em> logistics as went to &#8220;Rock the Fort,&#8221; right down to the same number of portajohns, someone (read: Weinstein) was going to complain.\u00a0 This was true regardless of any differences (say, in projected crowd size) between the two events.\u00a0 That&#8217;s a patently ridiculous expectation.<\/p>\n<p>To recap:\u00a0 The atheist\u00a0&#8220;Rock Beyond Belief&#8221; asked for <em>and received<\/em> permission to host an\u00a0event on a US military facility.\u00a0\u00a0That wasn&#8217;t good enough for Weinstein, and &#8220;Rock Beyond Belief&#8221; canceled itself because it wasn&#8217;t satisfied with the response.<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps Fort Bragg will now make a public exception to its standard policies &#8212; though that would seem futile since the event has been canceled.<\/p>\n<p>In any case, this isn&#8217;t about &#8220;Rock Beyond Belief&#8221; anymore.\u00a0 It&#8217;s about Michael Weinstein, who joined up with RBB\u00a0several months ago.\u00a0 Now, by sheer coincidence, he&#8217;s found (some might say he&#8217;s <em>created<\/em>) yet another vehicle with which he can sue the US military.\u00a0 He&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/02\/10\/usafa-lawsuit-dismissed-weinstein-goes-0-for-4\/\">lost four similar lawsuits<\/a>\u00a0already, and he&#8217;s left a trail of broken promises and unrequited &#8220;victims&#8221; along the way &#8212; quickly dumping each case for a &#8220;better&#8221; vehicle for his agenda without even bothering to\u00a0file (a passionately promised) <a href=\"http:\/\/www.firstamendmentcenter.org\/news.aspx?id=22474\">appeal<\/a>.\u00a0 This is only his latest opportunity.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Michael Weinstein&#8217;s &#8220;religious freedom&#8221; foundation has raised a hullabaloo over the decision by organizers to cancel the atheist &#8220;counter-event&#8221; to last year&#8217;s Christian &#8220;Rock the Fort.&#8221;\u00a0 Quoth the ever-eloquent Weinstein: There is a DoD Directive which says that the Department of Defense may never provide a selective benefit for one entity and not provide the same benefit for another, and [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[88,20,429,5284,175,4,1023,85,2,5218,7,1066,10,171,1126,1056],"class_list":["post-9928","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-government-and-religion","tag-army","tag-atheism","tag-billy-graham","tag-chaplain","tag-chris-rodda","tag-churchandstate","tag-fort-bragg","tag-mikey-weinstein","tag-military","tag-military-religious-freedom-foundation","tag-mrff","tag-mwr","tag-religion","tag-religious-freedom","tag-rock-beyond-belief","tag-rock-the-fort"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9928","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9928"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9928\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9928"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9928"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9928"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}