{"id":8310,"date":"2010-12-01T03:11:47","date_gmt":"2010-12-01T08:11:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/?p=8310"},"modified":"2013-10-04T20:47:13","modified_gmt":"2013-10-04T23:47:13","slug":"dadt-survey-doesn%e2%80%99t-say-what-you-think-it-says%e2%80%a6","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2010\/12\/01\/dadt-survey-doesn%e2%80%99t-say-what-you-think-it-says%e2%80%a6\/","title":{"rendered":"DADT Survey Doesn\u2019t Say What You Think It Says\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u2026or maybe it does.\u00a0 The report, entitled<em> Report of the Comprehensive Review of the Issues Associated with a Repeal of \u201cDon\u2019t Ask, Don\u2019t Tell\u201d<\/em>, was released yesterday (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianfighterpilot.com\/articles\/files\/dadtreport.pdf\">available here<\/a>, or at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.defense.gov\/home\/features\/2010\/0610_gatesdadt\/\">DoD DADT website<\/a>).\u00a0 The following\u00a0is a list of highlights from the report.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Statistics and Questions<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>As noted <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2010\/11\/29\/dont-ask-dont-tell-misconstrued-by-media\/\">previously<\/a>, fun with numbers will likely allow both sides of the DADT debate to cite the report in favor of their position.<\/p>\n<p>For example, one of the most frequently cited statistics (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.airforcetimes.com\/news\/2010\/11\/ap-pentagon-study-dont-ask-dont-tell-113010\/\">as here<\/a>\u00a0and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aclu.org\/blog\/lgbt-rights\/pentagon-dadt-report-underscores-need-congressional-action\">here<\/a>) is the statement that<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When asked about how having a Service member in their immediate unit who said he or she is gay would affect the unit\u2019s ability to \u201cwork together to get the job done,\u201d <strong>70% of Service members predicted it would have a positive, mixed, or no effect<\/strong>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>However, using <em>precisely the same numbers<\/em>, one could also say<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When asked about how having a Service member in their immediate unit who said he or she is gay would affect the unit\u2019s ability to \u201cwork together to get the job done,\u201d <strong>62% of Service members predicted it would have a negative or\u00a0<\/strong><strong>mixed effect<\/strong>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Obviously, the second statement holds quite a different meaning than the first \u2013 yet both are entirely accurate.<\/p>\n<p>One of the main disconnects is that many reports have conflated <!--more-->the \u201cpositive\u201d responses toward repeal with the \u201cequally positive or negative\u201d or \u201cno effect\u201d responses.\u00a0 This is likely due to the report\u2019s openly stated bias toward repeal: The underlying question is \u201c<em>What <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">harm<\/span> would come from repeal?<\/em>\u201d rather than \u201c<em>What <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">good<\/span> would come from repeal?<\/em>\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Since the report equates \u201cno effect\u201d with\u00a0no &#8220;harm,&#8221; it supports the bias toward repeal.\u00a0 The report nowhere addresses the <em>benefit<\/em> to the <em>military<\/em> of repealing DADT (though President Obama said DADT &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.defense.gov\/\/news\/newsarticle.aspx?id=61898\">weakens&#8230;national security<\/a>.&#8221;).\u00a0 It even notes that discharges for homosexuality have accounted for a mere 0.33% of all dismissals, yet fails to describe how it would help the military to repeal the policy \u2013 particularly in light of the statistically significant \u201cnegative\u201d responses.<\/p>\n<p>When <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">positive<\/span> responses are compared directly to <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">negatives<\/span>, the results are significant.\u00a0 For example, the reported impact of repeal on morale was 4.8% positive to 27.9% negative.\u00a0 (This statistic was reported as \u201c62%&#8230;responded that repeal would have a positive, mixed, or no effect on their morale.\u201d)\u00a0 If an institution of millions of people is faced with a choice that is only viewed by 5% as positive, what justification\u00a0could there be for instituting that option?<\/p>\n<p>Some critics, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/40426795\/ns\/politics-capitol_hill\/\">including US Senator John McCain<\/a>,\u00a0have asserted\u00a0the questions may be <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2010\/11\/12\/frc-criticizes-soon-to-be-released-dadt-survey\/\">flawed on their face<\/a>.\u00a0 The questions essentially say<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>If\u00a0the Soldier next to you was homosexual, could you still defeat the enemy?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>When most Soldiers naturally answer \u201cyes,\u201d some\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2010\/11\/01\/survey-military-majority-backs-dadt-repeal-chaplains-protest\/\">have taken it to mean they have \u201cno problem\u201d<\/a> with or are &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.csmonitor.com\/USA\/Military\/2010\/1130\/Don-t-ask-don-t-tell-survey-shows-ambivalence-to-gays-in-the-military\">ambivalent<\/a>&#8221; about serving with homosexuals, which is not at all what the question asks.\u00a0 (Even official DoD releases cite statistics <a href=\"http:\/\/www.defense.gov\/\/news\/newsarticle.aspx?id=61895\">saying a majority of troops &#8220;do not object,&#8221;<\/a>\u00a0though such a question was never asked.)\u00a0 In fact, the Soldier may simply be able to accomplish his mission <em>despite<\/em> having <em>serious<\/em> problems with the change in policy.\u00a0 That\u2019s like asking a Soldier if he could still accomplish the mission if he had his hand tied behind his back, no water or food for three days, and only three rounds of ammo.\u00a0 Most will still say \u201cyes;\u201d that doesn\u2019t mean it\u2019s a situation they believe they should be in or support.<\/p>\n<p>Another <a href=\"http:\/\/edition.cnn.com\/2010\/POLITICS\/11\/30\/military.gay.policy\/\">misquoted statistic<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>More than nine out of 10 troops said their unit&#8217;s ability to work with someone they thought was gay or lesbian was very good, good, or neither good nor bad.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The cited statistic was of people who <em>thought<\/em> they <em>might<\/em> have served with someone who was homosexual &#8212; thus, it is not an accurate picture of actual homosexual service.\u00a0\u00a0Also, they rated\u00a0the unit&#8217;s\u00a0&#8220;ability to work together,&#8221; not their ability to work with\u00a0&#8220;with someone [who] was gay.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Moral and Religious Concerns<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The report did <em>attempt<\/em> to address \u201creligious concerns\u201d (as <a href=\"http:\/\/religion.blogs.cnn.com\/2010\/11\/30\/military-weighed-religious-concerns-on-dadt-report\/\">noted at CNN<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[W]e heard a <strong>large number of Service members raise religious and moral objections<\/strong> to homosexuality or to serving alongside someone who is gay. Some feared repeal&#8230;might limit their individual freedom of expression and free exercise of religion, or require them to change their personal beliefs about the morality of homosexuality.<strong> The views expressed to us in these terms cannot be downplayed or dismissed<\/strong>&#8230;\u00a0 A large number of military chaplains (and their followers) believe that homosexuality is a sin and an abomination, and that they are required by God to condemn it as such.<\/p>\n<p>However, the reality is that in today\u2019s U.S. military, <strong>people of sharply different moral values and religious convictions<\/strong>\u2014including those who believe that abortion is murder and those who do not, and those who believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God and those who do not\u2014and those who have no religious convictions at all, <strong>already co-exist<\/strong>, work, live, and fight together on a daily basis.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Unfortunately, the report \u201cdismisses\u201d the very concerns it says cannot be \u201cdismissed,\u201d and it uses debunked counter-examples (religion, abortion) in the process:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The Christian perspective on <strong>religious freedom<\/strong> in the military has <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2010\/08\/02\/christian-military-perspective-pagans-religious-freedom-and-officership\/\">already been addressed<\/a> elsewhere, <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2010\/11\/03\/dont-ask-dont-tell-the-military-christians-perspective\/\">more than once<\/a>; in short, religious belief is a recognized human liberty protected by the Constitution.\u00a0 <strong>Sexual conduct<\/strong>, by contrast, is not.<\/li>\n<li>Military policies do not address <strong>abortion<\/strong>; US laws <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2010\/10\/04\/military-physicians-voice-opposition-to-abortion-mandate\/\">prohibit military facilities from use in abortions<\/a>; and military doctors have been permitted to refuse to perform them.\u00a0 The moral equivalency with <strong>sexual conduct<\/strong> fails.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>There is <em>no relevant comparison<\/em> in \u201ctoday\u2019s U.S. military\u201d with regard to homosexuality.\u00a0 In failing to recognize this fact, the report ignored significant concerns raised to date.\u00a0 The FRC notes that some\u00a0in government\u00a0have focused on &#8220;feelings&#8221; about homosexuality, rather than <a href=\"http:\/\/www.frcblog.com\/2010\/11\/its-more-than-a-feeling\/\">acknowledging the issue of morality<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Free Exercise and &#8220;Protected Class&#8221;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The report also said current protections on expression and free exercise are \u201cadequate:\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Existing regulations state that chaplains \u201cwill not be required to perform a religious role&#8230;if doing so would be in variance with the tenets or practices of their faith.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This entirely misses the point of the publicized concerns.\u00a0 Chaplains have not expressed a fear they would be required to say something in a religious service they do <em><strong>not<\/strong> <\/em>believe; they have <a href=\"http:\/\/dailycaller.com\/2010\/11\/30\/army-chaplains-oppose-dadt-repeal-on-religious-speech-grounds\/\">expressed the fear<\/a> they would be <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2010\/09\/27\/more-chaplains-endorsers-raise-concerns-over-dadt-repeal\/\">punished for saying something they <em><strong>do<\/strong><\/em> believe<\/a>.\u00a0 The report cites no regulation providing protection from that eventuality, but it does provide one enlightening recommendation:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We <strong>do not recommend that sexual orientation be placed alongside race, color, religion, sex, and national origin<\/strong>, as a class eligible for various diversity programs, tracking initiatives, and complaint resolution processes under the Military Equal Opportunity Program.\u00a0 We believe that doing so could produce a sense, rightly or wrongly, that gay men and lesbians are being <strong>elevated to a special status as a \u201cprotected class\u201d<\/strong> and will receive special treatment.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>(The report repeatedly references &#8220;sexual orientation,&#8221; despite the fact <a href=\"http:\/\/codes.lp.findlaw.com\/uscode\/10\/A\/II\/37\/654\">the law<\/a> bans homosexual <em>conduct<\/em>, not &#8220;orientation.&#8221;)<\/p>\n<p>Of course, this is a recommendation, not a policy or law.\u00a0 There have been efforts elsewhere, including the <a href=\"http:\/\/thomas.loc.gov\/cgi-bin\/query\/z?c111:H.R.1283:\">US House<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/thomas.loc.gov\/cgi-bin\/query\/z?c111:S.3065:\">Senate<\/a>, to elevate sexual preference to precisely such a status.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Logistics and Benefits<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>One of the greatest concerns of repeal raised <em>without respect to religion<\/em> has been billeting and berthing.\u00a0 The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.airforcetimes.com\/news\/2010\/11\/military-survey-most-troops-say-gays-no-problem-112910\/\">report advises<\/a> that <strong>creating separate facilities is \u201ca logistical nightmare.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The creation of a third and possibly fourth category of bathroom facilities and living quarters, whether at bases or forward deployed areas, would be a logistical nightmare, expensive, and impossible to administer.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The report goes on to say the desire to be physically separated from homosexuals is based on \u201cstereotype:\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Most concerns we heard about showers and bathrooms were based on [the] stereotype\u2026that permitting homosexual and heterosexual people of the same sex to shower together is tantamount to allowing men and women to shower together.<\/p>\n<p>However, <strong>common sense<\/strong> tells us that a situation in which people of <strong>different anatomy shower together is different<\/strong> from a situation in which people of the <strong>same anatomy but different sexual orientations<\/strong> shower together.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>A man attracted to a woman\u2019s body can\u2019t shower with a woman, but a man attracted to a man\u2019s body can shower with a man?\u00a0 That \u201ccommon sense\u201d apparently\u00a0isn\u2019t so common:\u00a0 Despite the report\u2019s assertions, two-thirds of those surveyed said they would proactively respond if forced to share shower facilities with a homosexual (with a plurality saying they\u2019d shower at a different time).<\/p>\n<p>Benefits based on marriage are explicitly denied based on the military&#8217;s obligation to the Defense of Marriage Act.\u00a0 However, the report suggests some benefits could be opened up by re-defining &#8220;spouse.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>A Majority <em>Object<\/em> to Repeal<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Interestingly, the report says that every method <em>except<\/em> the survey revealed a <strong>majority of servicemembers did not want repeal<\/strong>, <em>but<\/em>\u2026<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>If the Working Group were to attempt to numerically divide the sentiments we heard expressed in IEFs, online inbox entries, focus groups, and confidential online communications between those who were for or against repeal of the current Don\u2019t Ask, Don\u2019t Tell policy, our sense is that <strong>the majority of views expressed were against repeal of the current policy<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>However, any such effort to divide the sentiments into one camp or another would not have any quantitative value, and would be highly misleading and flawed&#8230;The views voiced both for and against repeal in [those fora]\u00a0were not representative of the force as a whole. The Service members we heard from through these mechanisms were those individuals who felt strongly enough and motivated enough to give voice to their views.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Separation for Moral Cause, or &#8220;Vote with Your Feet&#8221;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The report acknowledged that some have asked if they will be <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2010\/07\/20\/military-christians-wonder-about-voting-with-their-feet\/\">allowed to leave the military<\/a> if they are morally opposed to open homosexuality in the military.\u00a0 In short, no.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We recommend against a policy allowing release from service commitments and voluntary discharge of Service members based on opposition to living or serving with gay or lesbian Service members after a repeal of Don\u2019t Ask, Don\u2019t Tell.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Discharge Statistics<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>As an interesting aside,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Approximately one quarter of [DADT] discharges have occurred in the first four months of a Service member\u2019s service.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>which may lend support to the belief that some may have second thoughts about the military and say \u201cI\u2019m gay\u201d as a quick way out of their service obligation with an honorable discharge.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Other Notes:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Secretary of Defense Robert Gates notes the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.defense.gov\/\/speeches\/speech.aspx?speechid=1524\">Joint Chiefs have reservations<\/a> over the high percentage of combat troops who have issues with repeal.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u2026or maybe it does.\u00a0 The report, entitled Report of the Comprehensive Review of the Issues Associated with a Repeal of \u201cDon\u2019t Ask, Don\u2019t Tell\u201d, was released yesterday (available here, or at the DoD DADT website).\u00a0 The following\u00a0is a list of highlights from the report. 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