{"id":7809,"date":"2010-10-27T00:35:56","date_gmt":"2010-10-27T06:35:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/?p=7809"},"modified":"2011-02-27T22:20:42","modified_gmt":"2011-02-28T03:20:42","slug":"fort-bragg-atheist-celebration-gets-complicated","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2010\/10\/27\/fort-bragg-atheist-celebration-gets-complicated\/","title":{"rendered":"Fort Bragg Atheist Celebration Gets&#8230;Complicated"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Fort Bragg Freedom Festival, the <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2010\/10\/04\/atheists-to-take-up-ft-bragg-generals-offer\/\">atheist response to the evangelistic Rock the Fort<\/a>, has previously been discussed.\u00a0 How, precisely, it will be executed appears to have gotten&#8230;complicated.<\/p>\n<p>For one thing, the &#8220;Freedom Festival&#8221; Facebook page now says it is (emphatically) &#8220;no longer associated&#8221; with its own website:\u00a0 <!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The website www.ftbraggfreedomfestival.com is no longer affiliated with the Freedom Festival. Soon it will be redirected to promote another event that does NOT have any connection to the Freedom Festival.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The new website appears to be\u00a0the not-at-all confusing www.ftbraggfreedomfest.com, which, while still under construction, currently looks exactly like their old site.\u00a0 All of these announcements have been made by Geri Weaver, who is apparently the &#8216;organizer&#8217; of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.meetup.com\/CapeFearAtheistsandAgnostics\/\">Cape Fear Atheists\u00a0and Agnostics<\/a> in the Fort Bragg area.\u00a0 (Weaver has been in the news before, complaining to the ACLU when her child <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wral.com\/news\/local\/story\/2069375\/\">brought a Bible home from school<\/a>.)\u00a0 CFAA is presenting itself as the &#8216;sponsor&#8217; of the event.<\/p>\n<p>In the meantime, the original site is being replaced by <a href=\"http:\/\/rockbeyondbelief.com\/\">Rock Beyond Belief<\/a>, which, aside from the name change, is also identical to the original effort &#8212; and the new site.<\/p>\n<p>Interesting text has also been added to the group&#8217;s Facebook page.\u00a0 For one thing, the Freedom Festival reportedly has &#8220;support&#8221; from the Fort Bragg MWR to host their event, including access to the main parade field &#8212; assuming they meet the requisite attendance numbers.\u00a0 At this point, then, it appears Fort Bragg is allowing this festival the same access as Rock the Fort.<\/p>\n<p>Further, the organizers said the event is a<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>celebration of our 1st Amendment Right which states that the government &#8220;may not penalize or discriminate against any individual or group of individuals because of their religious views nor may it compel persons to affirm to any particular beliefs&#8221;.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Now, <em>which<\/em> part of the First Amendment, exactly, is quoted?\u00a0 For those that are a little rusty:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>They might need to rethink their wording.\u00a0 In addition, a post by &#8220;Audrey&#8221;\u00a0said<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Having the event on the main parade field will show that the Army is not afraid to support the right of 20% of its community who have &#8220;no religious preference&#8221; or who declare themselves atheist, agnostic, etc. [<em>sic<\/em>]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Problem is, that&#8217;s fun with numbers.\u00a0 The misrepresentation of the &#8220;20%&#8221; to which Audrey makes reference <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2010\/03\/03\/maaf-misrepresents-data-in-brief-to-white-house\/\">has already been explained<\/a>, but the short version is that declared atheist\/agnostics make up <em>0.5%<\/em> of the Armed Forces.\u00a0 An additional 22.9% <em>do not declare anything<\/em>, which does <em>not<\/em> mean they are atheists or agnostics.<\/p>\n<p>Repeated anecdotes detail how Jews in the military use &#8220;no religious preference&#8221; on their dogtags to avoid persecution if they&#8217;re captured; <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2009\/11\/30\/hasans-fort-hood-victims-13-or-14\/\">Nidal Malik Hasan<\/a> was also one of those &#8220;20%&#8221; who declared\u00a0&#8220;no preference.&#8221;\u00a0 While there are almost certainly atheists\/agnostics in that group, the evident presence of other faiths makes it\u00a0intellectually dishonest to imply that 22.9% of the military needs\u00a0an atheistic event on an Army parade field to feel their rights are supported.<\/p>\n<p>Audrey was stretching in an apparent unwarranted bid for legitimacy.\u00a0 The fact the Army would provide support for an event with which only 0.5% of the military declares ideological association is impressive and positive by itself.<\/p>\n<p>To return to the point, in the end, it is difficult to\u00a0tell if there is a single or two separate atheist events vying for support at Fort Bragg, though a concerted effort is certainly underway.\u00a0 Any public event like this will certainly have challenges, and theirs is no exception.<\/p>\n<p>Hopefully they&#8217;ll achieve their stated objective of an event that &#8216;celebrates&#8217; rather than &#8216;denigrates,&#8217; though\u00a0they&#8217;ll have their challenges there, as well.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Fort Bragg Freedom Festival, the atheist response to the evangelistic Rock the Fort, has previously been discussed.\u00a0 How, precisely, it will be executed appears to have gotten&#8230;complicated. 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