{"id":45515,"date":"2020-07-21T16:04:48","date_gmt":"2020-07-21T19:04:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/?p=45515"},"modified":"2021-04-01T09:39:09","modified_gmt":"2021-04-01T12:39:09","slug":"mikey-weinstein-gets-marine-corps-to-cancel-speaker-because-of-christianity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2020\/07\/21\/mikey-weinstein-gets-marine-corps-to-cancel-speaker-because-of-christianity\/","title":{"rendered":"Mikey Weinstein Gets Marine Corps to Cancel Speaker Because of Christianity"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-45810\" src=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/getty.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"880\" height=\"280\" srcset=\"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/getty.jpg 880w, https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/getty-300x95.jpg 300w, https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/getty-768x244.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 880px) 100vw, 880px\" \/>Michael \u201cMikey\u201d Weinstein recently celebrated the fact the US Marine Corps acceded to his demands in only \u201c64 minutes\u201d and canceled the scheduled presentation of Jay Lorenzen, a retired US Air Force Lieutenant Colonel. The presentation was to be on the Gettysburg battlefield. Weinstein\u2019s criticism of Lorenzen was stark, as described by his research <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/stories\/2020\/7\/17\/1961500\/-MRFF-Stops-Mandatory-Campus-Crusade-Connected-Training-for-Marine-Reserve-JAGs-in-Record-Time\">assistant Chris Rodda<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Last night when an email came in to MRFF from a Marine Reserve JAG, reporting that 120 Marine Reserve JAGs were to be required to virtually attend a \u201cbattle-study\u201d training of Gettysburg tomorrow led by a Jay Lorenzen, the name was very familiar to us at MRFF as a staff member of none other than Campus Crusade for Christ.<\/p>\n<p>One look at the website for Lorenzen\u2019s \u201cHigh Ground at Gettysburg\u201d training confirmed that the JAG\u2019s concerns that this was to be a Christian proselytizing event were well founded.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Or, as Weinstein put it (in his characteristic poor grammar and ellipses flair): <!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230;..as I said on our phone call, Eric, having a fundamentalist Christian extremist parachurch official associated with Campus Crusade for Christ (\u201cCRU\u201d) as a MANDATORY speaker in this particular MANDATORY USMC TRAINING scenario\u2019s time, place and manner viciously violates the No Establishment Clause of the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights, Colonel, as well as all associated SCOTUS caselaw and a slew of USMC and DoD Directives, Instructions and Regulations&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>..it is just totally illegal&#8230;.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Chris Rodda\u2019s accusation sounds particularly compelling. After all, Lorenzen\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/thehighgroundatgettysburg.org\/\">website<\/a> and Gettysburg discussions do contain <em>some<\/em> references to Christian elements. However, it soon becomes evident Chris Rodda is not being forthright.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHigh Ground at Gettysburg\u201d wasn\u2019t the course the Marine JAGs were participating in. According to the Marines,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A virtual battlefield tour of Gettysburg using a video from the National Park Service was scheduled as part of the annual training.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Weinstein even gave a class schedule to FoxNews, which showed three presentations on \u201cleadership\u201d:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The first presentation is titled \u201cLeadership Principles Drawn from the Physical Battlefield that Have Application to Other Arenas,\u201d while the other two read: \u201cLeaders Learn the Language of Leadership.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That Lorenzen was invited was not in question. That he is a Christian is not in question. He was invited as a volunteer \u201coutside virtual presenter\u201d on the field of Gettysburg, using National Park Service material. There is no evidence he was going to speak on a Christian topic, and there is no evidence he was invited to give a Christian presentation.<\/p>\n<p>According to the FoxNews article, when confronted with those facts, <strong>Weinstein pointed to Lorenzen\u2019s <em>beliefs<\/em><\/strong> \u2013 nothing more.<\/p>\n<p>Note that both Rodda and Weinstein take issue not with what Lorenzen was invited to <em>do<\/em>, but with <strong>what his beliefs are<\/strong>. Rodda explicitly cited only his website, which showed Lorenzen\u2019s faith and history \u2013 not what he was going to tell the Marines. Weinstein was more blunt, and in his email to US Marine Col Eric Kleis cited <strong>only Lorenzen\u2019s \u201cfundamentalist Christian\u201d faith<\/strong> \u2013 not a single word about the content of what he would actually say or do.<\/p>\n<p>(Though no one has highlighted it, an anonymous email from the complaining JAG specifically criticized Lorenzen for working \u201cagainst the American Principles of <strong>equality, acceptance, and diversity<\/strong>,\u201d which seems to imply a very specific set of criticisms about very specific tenets of religious faith. Someone had an axe to grind.)<\/p>\n<p>At least one <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/faith-values\/marine-corps-cancel-training-speaker-christian-background\">news report<\/a> recognized the bigotry, if subtly [emphasis added]:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The U.S. Marine Corps (USMC) is facing backlash from both sides of the religious liberty debate after it planned a training session that was later <strong>canceled over the speaker\u2019s background in Christianity<\/strong>\u2026<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In fact, even the US Marine Corps tacitly admitted the person who complained did so because of who Lorenzen <em>was<\/em>, not what he was going to say [emphasis added]:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Some of the participating Marines raised <strong>concerns about a former military officer<\/strong> who volunteered as an outside virtual presenter.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>They \u201craised concerns\u201d about <em>him,<\/em> not about what he was scheduled to do or say.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, Chris Rodda, Mikey Weinstein, and at least one US Marine Reserve JAG attacked an Air Force veteran and had him effectively \u2018canceled\u2019 from interacting with the Marines <strong><em>only because he was a Christian<\/em><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>How\u2019s that religious freedom thing work again?<\/p>\n<p>Besides misleading the public on the content of the presentation Lorenzen was to deliver, Rodda provided a whopper of an untruth in her telling of the events [emphasis added]:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>last night\u2026an email came in to MRFF from a Marine Reserve JAG, <strong>reporting that 120 Marine Reserve JAGs were to be required<\/strong> to virtually attend a \u201cbattle-study\u201d training of Gettysburg\u2026<\/p>\n<p>The Marine Reservist who came to MRFF\u2026is a JAG \u2014 a lawyer \u2014 coming to MRFF <strong>on behalf of 120 lawyers<\/strong>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The MRFF has long been known to exaggerate or inflate the number of people who are filing complaints. For example, there are <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/2016\/12\/16\/mikey-weinsteins-mrff-admits-trolling-for-offended-supporters\/\">indications the MRFF socializes issues<\/a> to see who will be willing to be counted as a \u201ccomplainant\u201d. The MRFF also never provides <em>proof<\/em> of these numbers, so not only can they make up any number they want, the numbers themselves are meaningless. But the MRFF harps these numbers as a boost to Weinstein\u2019s fragile ego and as an apparent claim to credibility.<\/p>\n<p>In this case, Rodda said a <strong>single<\/strong> complaint \u201crepresented <strong>120<\/strong> Marine Reserve JAGs\u201d \u2013 which, according to her, was <em><strong>the entire class of US Marine lawyers<\/strong><\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Yet, according to the FoxNews report, at least one Marine Reserve JAG was <em>not<\/em> \u201crepresented\u201d by the complaining officer. So, at most, 119 JAGs are complaining to the MRFF \u2013 but does anyone seriously believe that?<\/p>\n<p>The only fact that can be drawn from Rodda\u2019s blog is that a <strong>single<\/strong> Marine officer complained about Lorenzen.<\/p>\n<p>Well, it turns out a single Marine officer was also offended by the <em>cancellation<\/em> of Lorenzen.<\/p>\n<p>So, why are the concerns of Officer #1 more valid than those of Officer #2?<\/p>\n<p>In the end, the only issue that matters is one: An easily offended US Marine JAG complained <em>not to his superiors<\/em>, but to Mikey Weinstein, <strong>about the <em>religion<\/em> <\/strong>of Jay Lorenzen. The US Marine Corps canceled a presentation by Jay Lorenzen <strong>only because someone complained about his religious faith<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Given the terseness of some of the correspondence, it may have been a case of the Marines trying to take the \u2018easy\u2019 route and hoping it \u2013 that is, Weinstein\u2019s complaint \u2013 would go away. If that\u2019s true, it\u2019s a gross example of a lack of intestinal fortitude. Bluntly, to take the easier wrong over the harder right is cowardice.<\/p>\n<p>If it\u2019s not correct, and in fact the Marines made a considered decision, it is even more concerning. The idea that the US military would cancel a speaker <strong>solely because of his religious beliefs<\/strong> \u2013 something that has nothing to do with the content of the presentation \u2013 is an anathema to the human liberty of religious freedom. That freedom, by the way, is enshrined in the US Constitution, which US Marines swear to defend.<\/p>\n<p>This is reminiscent of the MRFF\u2019s attacks on Lt Clebe McClary when he was invited to the Prayer Breakfast at the US Air Force Academy nearly 10 years ago. At the time, Weinstein\u2019s group derided McClary\u2019s \u201cparticular\u201d beliefs, apparently making him the \u2018<a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/2011\/01\/21\/weinstein-attacks-usafa-speaker-wrong-kind-of-christian\/\">wrong kind of Christian<\/a>\u2019, and at one point even said he wasn\u2019t a \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/2011\/01\/26\/mrff-usafa-speaker-mcclary-not-a-true-christian\/\">true Christian<\/a>\u201d and therefore should be disinvited.<\/p>\n<p>Like Jay Lorenzen, the MRFF tried to make McClary\u2019s <strong>beliefs<\/strong> appear so repugnant that his visit would be canceled. When they failed, they <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/2011\/02\/01\/mrff-sues-usafa-over-mcclary-invitation\/\">sued<\/a> &#8212; and they <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/2011\/02\/10\/usafa-lawsuit-dismissed-weinstein-goes-0-for-4\/\">failed again<\/a>. McClary spoke in an <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/2011\/02\/21\/usafa-prayer-luncheon-on-many-faiths\/\">otherwise<\/a> unremarkable <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/2011\/02\/11\/usafa-prayer-luncheon-on-overcoming-adversity\/\">event<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The MRFF&#8217;s words and actions were bigoted then, and it would seem they remain so today.<\/p>\n<p>It is notable that this was an annual training event for Marine JAGs \u2013 military <em>lawyers<\/em>. How do you think those JAGs will advise their commanders on religious issues if <em>that&#8217;s<\/em> the example they&#8217;re seeing from their leaders?<\/p>\n<p>It sounds like they need to be recalled and given a new class on \u2018how the Marines <em>should<\/em> have handled this\u2019 \u2013 because they clearly didn\u2019t do it right.<\/p>\n<div class=\"fb-like\" data-share=\"true\" data-show-faces=\"true\" data-size=\"small\" data-action=\"like\" data-layout=\"standard\"><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\"><strong>ADVERTISEMENT<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js\"><\/script><!-- blogpost --><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display: block;\" data-ad-format=\"auto\" data-ad-slot=\"2728423835\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6450825356098669\"><\/ins><script>\n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});<\/script><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Michael \u201cMikey\u201d Weinstein recently celebrated the fact the US Marine Corps acceded to his demands in only \u201c64 minutes\u201d and canceled the scheduled presentation of Jay Lorenzen, a retired US Air Force Lieutenant Colonel. The presentation was to be on the Gettysburg battlefield. Weinstein\u2019s criticism of Lorenzen was stark, as described by his research assistant Chris Rodda: Last night when [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":37260,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[175,96,1379,82,6127,6864,149,85,2,5218,7,17,10,171,65],"class_list":["post-45515","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-government-and-religion","tag-chris-rodda","tag-christian","tag-clebe-mcclary","tag-constitution","tag-gettysburg","tag-jay-lorenzen","tag-marines","tag-mikey-weinstein","tag-military","tag-military-religious-freedom-foundation","tag-mrff","tag-religious-expression","tag-religion","tag-religious-freedom","tag-usafa"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45515","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=45515"}],"version-history":[{"count":12,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45515\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":45811,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45515\/revisions\/45811"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/37260"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=45515"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=45515"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=45515"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}