{"id":4512,"date":"2010-05-12T00:25:22","date_gmt":"2010-05-12T08:25:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/?p=4512"},"modified":"2015-06-27T19:16:11","modified_gmt":"2015-06-27T22:16:11","slug":"osama-bin-laden-confirms-weinsteins-claim","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2010\/05\/12\/osama-bin-laden-confirms-weinsteins-claim\/","title":{"rendered":"Osama bin Laden Confirms Weinstein&#8217;s Claim?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Statements released by Osama bin Laden\u00a0have\u00a0validated the fears of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation&#8217;s Michael Weinstein, whose organization has repeatedly claimed that associations of Christianity with the US military provide &#8220;propaganda&#8221; and &#8220;recruiting tools&#8221; to America&#8217;s adversaries, endangering US troops and the mission of the nation.\u00a0 <!--more-->For example, in the <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2010\/04\/23\/franklin-graham-and-military-religious-freedom-continued\/\">recent dust-up<\/a> over Franklin Graham, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/2010\/04\/21\/army-weighs-rescinding-invitation-evangelist\/\">Weinstein gave<\/a> his standard retort that<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>the invitation would endanger American troops by stirring up Muslim extremists.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Referencing the impact of American Christianity\u00a0in his most recent\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.longwarjournal.org\/archives\/2010\/01\/bin_laden_threatens.php#ixzz0dgrpkdd4\">audio statement, bin Laden said<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>America will never dream of peace unless we live it in Palestine&#8230;Our attacks on you will continue to (as long as you support) Israel.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Actually, come to think of it, bin Laden didn&#8217;t even\u00a0<em>mention<\/em> Christians; he just talked about Palestine and Israel.\u00a0 But Weinstein and his organization make their claims with such assuredness &#8212; even asserting that Christians are <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2010\/03\/31\/mrff-opposes-troops-religious-freedom-at-easter\/\"><em>convincing<\/em> the Muslim world that America is on a crusade<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; that they <em>must<\/em> be true.\u00a0 Maybe some of bin Laden&#8217;s older statements reveal his &#8220;true&#8221; motivation, as implied by Weinstein\u00a0(that is, bin Laden&#8217;s opposition to American acts of Christianity).<\/p>\n<p>In 2001, just after the attacks of 9\/11, <a href=\"http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/2\/hi\/south_asia\/1585636.stm\">bin Laden said<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>They came out to fight this group of people who declared their faith in God and refused to abandon their religion. They came out to fight Islam in the name of terrorism.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Ah, an accusation of fighting Islam &#8212; that sounds more like it.\u00a0 He continued:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Afghanistan and Iraq were bombed and all hypocrite ones stood behind the head of the world&#8217;s infidelity &#8211; behind the Hubal of the age &#8211; namely, America and its supporters&#8230;Neither the United States nor he who lives in the United States will enjoy security before we can see it as a reality in Palestine.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Hmmm.\u00a0 Hubal refers to an ancient moon god, an object of pagan worship.\u00a0 That hardly sounds like bin Laden is making accusations of Christian crusading.\u00a0 Also, Palestine doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with overt or overbearing American Christianity.\u00a0 None of these statements by bin Laden accuse the American military\u00a0of &#8220;proselytizing,&#8221; an alleged act that Weinstein claims motivates &#8220;Muslim extremists.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps, then, another speaker for the al Qaeda organization might clarify that military Christians are inspiring their cause, as Weinstein claims they do.\u00a0 The following came from the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nefafoundation.org\/miscellaneous\/nefaAbul-Yazid0110.pdf\">alleged leader of al Qaeda in Afghanistan<\/a>, in claiming responsibility for the suicide attack on the CIA base there:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[He detonated] his brilliant and diligently made hidden explosive belt, without being noticed by those who don\u2019t believe in the afterlife; [against] a group of American and Jordanian intelligence agents in Khost in Afghanistan.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Now, Muslims acknowledge that Christians and Jews, &#8216;wrong&#8217; though they may be, do &#8220;believe in the afterlife.&#8221;\u00a0 Consistent with Islamic theology, then, those who <em>don&#8217;t<\/em> believe in the afterlife must be of a non-Abrahamic faith, or even non-religious.\u00a0 Is this terrorist leader thus\u00a0claiming America follows\u00a0an eastern religion, or\u00a0is atheist?\u00a0 That can&#8217;t be right.\u00a0 American activists like Weinstein keep saying that American <em>Christians <\/em>&#8212; not Buddhists or atheists &#8212; are providing &#8220;perfect&#8221; propaganda and recruiting tools, and are responsible for endangering American lives.\u00a0 Where&#8217;s the beef?<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps al Zawahiri, al Qaeda&#8217;s second fiddle, can explain.\u00a0 He recently <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nefafoundation.org\/miscellaneous\/nefaZawahiri1209.pdf\">took Arab nations to task<\/a> for not defending Islamic interests:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>What those Zionist Arab brother[s] are doing of torturing the Muslim prisoners in the Crusader campaign against Islam that which they call the war on terrorism is one of the reasons to receiving the grace of America&#8230;based on the American grace and the Zionist blessings.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Ah, finally, someone accusing America, though in a second-hand fashion, of being a &#8220;Crusader.&#8221;\u00a0 He goes on to say:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Those are Obama&#8217;s kids and men;&#8230;Obama&#8217;s commands&#8230;uncovered for the Muslims in Palestine and everywhere his true plan that backs Israel&#8230;Is it clear for us that Obama&#8217;s policy isn&#8217;t but a new episode in the crusaders&#8217; Zionist campaign to enslave us and humiliate us, occupy our land and steal our resources, and fight our religion and Sharia&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>The Pakistani-American Army&#8217;s miserable defense for the American crusader empire is the same role that was carried out by the Indian-British Army in servitude of the crusader British empire&#8230;[and] the same [as] provided by the forces of al-Sharif Hussein\u2014king of the Arabic Revolution who stabbed the Ottoman Empire in its back to bring victory for the crusade Britain\u2014and it is the same role carried out by the soldiers and officers in the Islamic Maghreb to service the crusader France&#8230;[These] are the battles of Islam against Kufr&#8230;the battle of Muslims against the crusaders.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So America is a crusader&#8230;but just like Britain and France were when they fought in the region.\u00a0 It would seem Zawahiri has chosen a popular pejorative for his enemy, rather than accurate characterization of their ideological position.\u00a0 After all, he uses the oxymoron &#8220;crusaders&#8217; Zionist campaign.&#8221;\u00a0 That illogical characterization of &#8220;crusade&#8221;\u00a0fails to support Weinstein&#8217;s accusations.<\/p>\n<p>In addition, Zawahiri\u00a0claims <em>Obama&#8217;s<\/em> policies &#8212; which have very specifically avoided a promotion of Christianity &#8212; are part of that campaign.\u00a0 Still, maybe Zawahiri &#8212; who frequently uses the &#8220;Crusader&#8221; pejorative &#8212; will pin down America for its Christianity:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We must seek Jihad against the Jews with all of what we have, and even jihad against those who support them and especially the Americans and the Westerners, as Israel isn\u2019t but the spear-head of the modern Crusader-Zionist campaign, and if the mujahideen in Palestine, or the West Bank or Gaza, are becoming narrowed in, then the chances are [for Jihad] are available all over the world.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Well, apparently not.\u00a0 It would seem overt Christianity in the American military is not, in fact, the driving force behind US adversaries, nor is it directly endangering American lives.<\/p>\n<p>The truth of the matter is that hypothetical suppositions of offending American adversaries &#8212; as proffered by Weinstein and his ilk &#8212; have never come to fruition.\u00a0 While terrorist leaders have frequently called America a &#8220;crusader&#8221; against Islam, they have applied the term to <em>anyone<\/em> who has fought them, regardless of their religious or political ideology.\u00a0 (Not unlike one US political party calling the other &#8220;unAmerican&#8221; simply for disagreeing.)\u00a0 The term is used as a pejorative and has nothing to do with the actual conduct of the Western &#8212; and Arab &#8212; nations that have opposed al Qaeda and other extremist groups&#8217; goals.<\/p>\n<p>Might these terrorist groups latch on to a &#8220;Christian scandal&#8221; in order to generate publicity or sympathy?\u00a0 Though Weinstein\u00a0frequently cites that hypothetical, it\u00a0has yet to occur in any significant fashion.\u00a0 Still, if it <em>did<\/em>,\u00a0the terrorists would be no more justified than they\u00a0are now.\u00a0 The claim America is on a Christianizing crusade is no more accurate than the accusations America is intentionally murdering innocent civilians in its combat operations.<\/p>\n<p>Just because the enemy <em>says<\/em> something doesn&#8217;t mean it is true, nor does it mean the US has to change its conduct as a result &#8212; as Weinstein would suggest.\u00a0 By his logic, the US should cease its alleged missile campaign against its adversaries in northern Pakistan, since it <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2010\/05\/09\/weekinreview\/09sanger.html\">supposedly led to the failed car bombing in New York<\/a> by Faisal Shahzad, thus endangering American lives (a point <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/episodes\/by-topic\/middle-east\/drones-and-the-ethics-of-war\/6290\/\">others have raised<\/a>).\u00a0\u00a0The US objective, then, should not be to\u00a0protect freedom or do what is right; instead,\u00a0America should\u00a0prevent potential offense of its adversaries so they stop having a reason to threaten US interests.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, that&#8217;s ludicrous &#8212; yet it is exactly what Weinstein suggests.\u00a0 Presumably, he would have Christianity restricted in order to prevent non-Christian adversaries from being offended, and thus, in his mind,\u00a0motivated to attack the United States.\u00a0 (In reality, Weinstein uses the &#8220;endanger our troops&#8221; meme as his <em>own<\/em> &#8220;propaganda&#8221; device, as it elevates the passion and apparent gravity of his claims.\u00a0 Weinstein is interested in influencing Christianity, and &#8220;concern for the troops&#8221; is merely a path to that end.)<\/p>\n<p>In fact, despite Weinstein&#8217;s accusations or his manufactured\u00a0hypothetical offense, the true motivation of al Qaeda and its allies has nothing to do with overt Christian conduct.<\/p>\n<p>In September 2009, bin Laden <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nefafoundation.org\/miscellaneous\/nefaubl0909.pdf\">clearly stated his long-standing position<\/a>, and it had nothing to do with Christianity in America:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>First, I say: we have shown and declared many times over more than two and a half decades that our dispute with you [is based on] your support of your allies; the Israeli occupiers of our land in Palestine. It was this stance\u2014along with other injustices\u2014that moved us to carry out the events of September 11&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Put the issue of your alliance with the Israelis up for debate and ask yourselves what your stance is: is your own security, blood, children, money, jobs, homes, economy, and reputation more important to you, or do you prefer the safety of the Israelis, their children, and economy?&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>If you stop the war, then so be it. But otherwise, it is inevitable that we will continue our war of extermination against you on all possible fronts.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2010\/01\/27\/jesus-rifles-and-the-trijicon-sword-drill\/\">Bible references on rifle scopes<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2009\/11\/20\/mrff-chaplains-sermons-permissible-sort-of\/\">Chaplains who encourage evangelism<\/a> may make for interesting American headlines (and generate income for the organization\u00a0Weinstein created and runs), but it would appear bin Laden thinks they pale in comparison to the &#8220;propaganda&#8221; value or the &#8220;recruiting&#8221; power of America&#8217;s support for the state of Israel.<\/p>\n<p>One could easily use Weinstein&#8217;s stereotypical\u00a0logic to say\u00a0America&#8217;s support for its ally Israel &#8220;endangers American troops by stirring up Muslim extremists.&#8221;\u00a0 While interesting academically, such a claim is a ridiculous foundation for foreign or national security policy.\u00a0 While some may legitimately debate America&#8217;s alliance with Israel, even they would likely agree appeasement of terrorists is far from a desirable policy.<\/p>\n<p>Christianity is no more a &#8220;recruiting tool&#8221; for America&#8217;s adversaries than is paganism, homosexuality, or the <em>Sports Illustrated<\/em> Swimsuit edition.\u00a0 The fact there is no evidence to support the assertion, however, has not stopped Weinstein or those who follow his lead from doing so:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>You couldn\u2019t do a better recruiting [job] for al-Qaeda or the Taliban. &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishdayton.org\/page.aspx?id=179525\">Michael Weinstein<\/a><\/li>\n<li>We&#8217;re handing Al Qaeda a powerful recruiting tool. &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/dispatches\/2010\/01\/military_using_rifles_with_jes.php\">Ed Brayton<\/a>, MRFF ally<\/li>\n<li>[This] provid[es] plenty of potential propaganda material for recruiting by extremists. &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/chris-rodda\/top-ten-ways-to-convince_b_291308.html\">Chris Rodda<\/a>, MRFF research assistant<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>These accusations are unfounded and misleading because they imply that<em> but for<\/em> the public association of Christianity with the US military, American adversaries would have no cause to fight.\u00a0 They imply the motivation leading to the bombing of the World Trade Center, the attacks on the US embassies in Africa, and the attack of 9\/11 has somehow faded, and it has been replaced by a desire to fight American Christianity on display in the US military.<\/p>\n<p>The accusations, which have long continued, are unsupported to date by any facts.\u00a0 Those who have attacked America and her interests have done so for many reasons, but none has yet stated it was because there were Christians in the\u00a0US military.<\/p>\n<p>Worse, Weinstein has recently moved the goalposts in his crusade against Christianity:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Islamic fundamentalists must cherish [the Reverend Franklin]\u00a0Graham as a propaganda tool&#8230;There can be no doubt that his&#8230;bigotry has buttressed the direct and indirect efforts of Islamic extremists to maim, kill and otherwise spill the precious blood of our honorable young men and women in uniform&#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Note Weinstein didn&#8217;t associate\u00a0Graham&#8217;s &#8220;propaganda&#8221; value with\u00a0his association with the military.\u00a0 Instead, Graham &#8212; a civilian American citizen &#8212;\u00a0is endangering American lives merely because of his <em>beliefs<\/em>.\u00a0 In the past, Weinstein has asserted military associations with Christianity should be eliminated because of the danger to US forces.\u00a0 Would he now make the same claim for civilians?\u00a0 Must Graham be silenced because his beliefs are a &#8220;direct&#8221; support to those who &#8220;spill the precious blood&#8221; of\u00a0US servicemembers, like Graham&#8217;s own son?<\/p>\n<p>Weinstein has either failed to fully develop his thoughts, or he has inadvertently\u00a0revealed a greater scope to his personal agenda.\u00a0 First, he doesn&#8217;t care about the &#8220;precious blood&#8221; of American troops, or he would also fight the <em>other<\/em> &#8220;propaganda&#8221; provided to the enemy, and he wouldn&#8217;t devalue the sacrifice of American troops by turning their deaths into a cheap fundraising prop.\u00a0 Second, consistent with <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2007\/05\/01\/pre-millennial-reconstructionist-dominionist-evangelical-christians\/\">his former statements<\/a>, Weinstein has demonstrated that he aims not\u00a0at just\u00a0Christians in the military, but also Christians in <em>America<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>The accusation that something is a &#8220;recruiting tool&#8221; for American adversaries or provides &#8220;propaganda&#8221; is irrelevant.\u00a0 It is simply a tool to sensationalize a topic to generate publicity, often for the purpose of fundraising for an activist agenda.\u00a0 The actions of the American military should be judged on their <em>merits <\/em>with respect to the freedoms protected by the US Constitution and the strategic goals of its political leadership, not on the possible reactions by those who would deign to attack America anyway.<\/p>\n<p>Those who make their choices purely\u00a0based on other peoples&#8217; reactions will end up doing exactly what those other people want.\u00a0 In the past, some have called that\u00a0<em>appeasement<\/em>.\u00a0 Others simply call it cowardice and\u00a0surrender.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\">The text of al Qaeda <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nefafoundation.org\/documents-aqstatements.html\">statements can be read here<\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Statements released by Osama bin Laden\u00a0have\u00a0validated the fears of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation&#8217;s Michael Weinstein, whose organization has repeatedly claimed that associations of Christianity with the US military provide &#8220;propaganda&#8221; 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