{"id":44322,"date":"2019-05-08T00:30:29","date_gmt":"2019-05-08T03:30:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/?p=44322"},"modified":"2021-04-09T10:22:52","modified_gmt":"2021-04-09T13:22:52","slug":"manchester-va-sued-over-bible-on-pow-mia-table","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2019\/05\/08\/manchester-va-sued-over-bible-on-pow-mia-table\/","title":{"rendered":"Manchester VA Sued over Bible on POW\/MIA Table"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-46185\" src=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/manvabible2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"880\" height=\"280\" srcset=\"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/manvabible2.jpg 880w, https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/manvabible2-300x95.jpg 300w, https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/manvabible2-768x244.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 880px) 100vw, 880px\" \/>As <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/2019\/04\/23\/mikey-weinstein-continues-war-on-pow-mia-tables\/\">previously noted<\/a>, both the Freedom From Religion Foundation and the Military Religious Freedom Foundation claimed they contacted the VA Medical Center in Manchester, New Hampshire, to demand a Bible be removed from the POW\/MIA display in the foyer. The Bible was removed &#8220;out of an abundance of caution,&#8221; but the backlash &#8212; and a subsequent legal review &#8212; led the VA to apologize and return the Bible, which was donated by World War II POW and Army Air Corps TSgt Herman &#8220;Herk&#8221; Streitburger [emphasis added]:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cManchester VAMC officials temporarily removed the Bible from the display out of an abundance of caution,\u201d VA spokeswoman Kristin Pressly said in a statement provided to USA TODAY. \u201cFollowing that removal, Manchester VAMC received an outpouring of complaints from Veterans and other stakeholders \u2013 <strong>many of whom dropped off Bibles at the facility<\/strong> \u2013 in protest of this action.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Pressly said that <strong>after consulting with lawyers<\/strong>, the facility determined <strong>the Bible will stay and \u201cremain indefinitely<\/strong> as part of the missing man display, a secular tribute to America\u2019s POW\/MIA community.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201c<strong>We apologize<\/strong> to the Veterans, families and other stakeholders who were offended by our <strong>incorrect removal of this Bible<\/strong>,\u201d she said.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Note that this apology came from Kristin Pressly, <em>speaking for the VA<\/em>, not the Manchester medical facility.<\/p>\n<p>Now, James Chamberlain, described as a &#8220;devout Christian&#8221; and &#8220;Air Force veteran,&#8221; has filed a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianfighterpilot.com\/articles\/files\/manchestervabible.pdf\">lawsuit (PDF)<\/a>\u00a0to force the Manchester VA to remove\u00a0<!--more-->the Bible.<\/p>\n<p>In an interesting twist, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/stories\/2019\/5\/7\/1855980\/-MRFF-Files-Lawsuit-to-Remove-Bible-from-VA-Facility-POW-MIA-Table\">Chris Rodda<\/a> (never known for truth or accuracy) and a few websites said\u00a0the MRFF &#8220;filed a lawsuit,&#8221; yet that doesn&#8217;t appear to be accurate. The MRFF is not party to the suit, and the lawyer appears to be a local town barrister with no public affiliation to Weinstein or his crew. The lawsuit <em>mentions<\/em> the MRFF, but only in an irrelevant aside. (Prior lawsuits from the MRFF were often filled with unrelated facts and accusations.) Though he is clearly acting as the &#8220;publicity rep&#8221; for Chamberlain, it would seem Mikey Weinstein is keeping the actual lawsuit at arm&#8217;s reach, as if to profit from it without bearing any loss when the lawsuit fails &#8212; as it surely will.<\/p>\n<p>As if to prove his role as social media coordinator, Weinstein&#8217;s group made a point of saying the story of the lawsuit had gone &#8220;major media viral&#8221; as it has now been copied to all the major news channels &#8212; clearly indicating Weinstein doesn&#8217;t know what &#8220;viral&#8221; means. If you publish a press release and have it go out on the wire, the story isn&#8217;t &#8220;viral.&#8221; But it boosts Mikey&#8217;s ego to think it so.<\/p>\n<p>Weinstein is also ignoring the fact much of the press reporting has an incredulous tone, setting Mikey up as a veritable &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Florida_Man\">Florida man<\/a>.&#8221;\u00a0 He may think <em>any<\/em> publicity is good publicity, but Weinstein&#8217;s\u00a0ego may not be able to handle the blowback.<\/p>\n<p>While carefully keeping skin out of the game, Weinstein presumably hopes to gain were the lawsuit to prevail. He would have, in that case, a loaded gun to go after every other POW\/MIA display in the country and tell them to remove Bibles. Regrettably for Chamberlain, it&#8217;s probably the worst example he could have chosen, since the Bible on the POW\/MIA table comes <strong>from an actual POW<\/strong>. While Chamberlain&#8217;s lawsuit complains the table should &#8220;be a memorial to all who serve,&#8221; that isn&#8217;t what it is, by definition. <strong>The table is a memorial to POWs and MIAs<\/strong>. Chamberlain &#8212; whose bona fides are oddly left out of the complaint &#8212; appears to be neither, while an <strong>actual POW donated the Bible<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Still, Weinstein does assume some risk, because when the lawsuit fails &#8212; and it will &#8212; he&#8217;ll have to overcome that ruling to continue his annual fundraising on the backs of the POW\/MIA tables. In other words, everyone will stop listening to him &#8212; which means they&#8217;ll stop sending him money.<\/p>\n<p>In brief, a quick reading of the complaint demonstrates the weak (or non-existent) foundation upon which it stands [emphasis added]:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The first amendment of the United States Constitution states&#8230;\u201cCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>The placement of the Christian Bible&#8230;is in violation of that fundamental proscription &#8212; that the government may not establish any religion<\/strong>. Nor can the government give favoritism to one religious belief at the expense of others.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>No reasonable person walks into the foyer of a Veterans Affairs building, sees a POW\/MIA table with a candle, flower, plate, glass, and Bible, and reasonably thinks the government is <strong>trying to establish a religion<\/strong> or that Christianity is favored over other religions.<\/p>\n<p>Mikey may not <em>like<\/em> it, and Chamberlain may feel <em>offended<\/em>, but no law, policy, or constitutional provision has been enacted to keep their feelings from being hurt.<\/p>\n<p>The National League of POW\/MIA Families says the Bible represents<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>the strength gained through faith to sustain us and those lost from our country, founded as one nation under God.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"p-text\">Ann Mills-Griffiths, chief executive and chairman\u00a0of the league, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/story\/news\/politics\/2019\/05\/07\/bible-display-veterans-affairs-new-hampshire-facility-spurs-lawsuit\/\">minced no words<\/a> in what she thought of Weinstein and the lawsuit.\u00a0 She [emphasis added]<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p-text\">called the foundation\u2019s efforts to have Bibles removed from displays \u201c<strong>absurd and stupid<\/strong>.\u201d She said those who have removed them under pressure from the group are \u201c<strong>politically correct cowards<\/strong>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Mikey Weinstein won&#8217;t like being called a coward, so we&#8217;ll see if he goes after Mills-Griffiths next.<\/p>\n<p>The VA, for its part, isn&#8217;t backing down. Building on Pressly&#8217;s earlier statement, the VA press secretary went even further [emphasis added]:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>National VA spokesman Curt Cashour criticized the lawsuit as &#8220;nothing more than an attempt to force VA into censoring a show of respect for America\u2019s POW\/MIA community.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<strong>Make no mistake: VA will not be bullied on this issue<\/strong>,&#8221; he said.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Would that the Armed Services would speak so forcefully when Mikey Weinstein tries to trample the rights of US troops.<\/p>\n<p>It appears First Liberty, which has helped the Manchester VA to date, is going to help protect the VA from the &#8220;bully&#8221; Mikey Weinstein, as noted from Chief of Staff Mike Berry in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.airforcetimes.com\/news\/your-military\/2019\/05\/07\/lawsuit-filed-over-bible-display-at-new-hampshire-va-hospital-uproar-ensues\/\">Military Times<\/a>, following a rant by Mikey:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cThat sectarian Christian Bible bolted down to that POW\/MIA table at the Manchester NH VAMC is a grotesque gang sign of fundamentalist Christian triumphalism, exceptionalism and supremacy, indeed a middle finger of unconstitutional repugnance to the plurality and separation of church and state guaranteed in the U.S. Constitution,\u201d Weinstein told Military Times.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAs a state actor, the VA cannot elevate one faith over another or no faith,\u201d he continued. &#8220;The VA is wretchedly disrespecting millions of American veterans by doing so. The VA has ignominiously made sure that that sectarian Christian Bible sticks out like a tarantula on a wedding cake in that POW\/MIA display, and they\u2019ve done so for a reason! It\u2019s immoral, unethical and blatantly illegal under our Constitution.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We look forward to aggressively prosecuting our case in federal court.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Berry is also looking forward to that confrontation.<\/p>\n<p>\u201c<strong>I\u2019m confident the MRFF will continue their losing record<\/strong>,\u201d he said. &#8220;It\u2019s sad that the MRFF continues its efforts to bully the VA at the expense of our veterans and service members.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut as I\u2019ve said, if the MRFF wants to destroy or disturb the Manchester VAMC display, they\u2019ll have to come through us.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Mikey Weinstein, a former Air Force Captain, probably has about a hundred pounds on Mike Berry, a current reserve US Marine.<\/p>\n<p>Berry could take him.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\"><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.news-journal.com\/veterans-hospital-bible\/image_acf555f4-7134-11e9-9787-6308e94bc114.html\">Image<\/a> via Kristin Pressly\/Manchester VA Medical Center via AP.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\">Also at the local <a href=\"https:\/\/www.unionleader.com\/news\/courts\/manchester-va-medical-center-veterans-battle-over-bible-display\/article_d66a620b-7133-51ca-b393-76abc3dd9a92.html\">Union-Leader<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/faith-values\/atheist-group-sues-over-bible-display-at-va-hospital-in-new-hampshire\">FoxNews<\/a>, the <a href=\"http:\/\/religionclause.blogspot.com\/2019\/05\/suit-challenges-bible-display-at-va.html\">Religion Clause<\/a>, and the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.unionleader.com\/news\/courts\/manchester-va-medical-center-veterans-battle-over-bible-display\/article_d66a620b-7133-51ca-b393-76abc3dd9a92.html\">Stars and Stripes<\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"fb-like\" data-share=\"true\" data-show-faces=\"true\" data-size=\"small\" data-action=\"like\" data-layout=\"standard\"><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\"><strong>ADVERTISEMENT<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js\"><\/script><!-- blogpost --><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display: block;\" data-ad-format=\"auto\" data-ad-slot=\"2728423835\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6450825356098669\"><\/ins><script>\n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});<\/script><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As previously noted, both the Freedom From Religion Foundation and the Military Religious Freedom Foundation claimed they contacted the VA Medical Center in Manchester, New Hampshire, to demand a Bible be removed from the POW\/MIA display in the foyer. 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