{"id":4104,"date":"2010-03-03T06:10:01","date_gmt":"2010-03-03T14:10:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/?p=4104"},"modified":"2015-06-27T19:16:18","modified_gmt":"2015-06-27T22:16:18","slug":"maaf-misrepresents-data-in-brief-to-white-house","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2010\/03\/03\/maaf-misrepresents-data-in-brief-to-white-house\/","title":{"rendered":"MAAF Misrepresents Data in Brief to White House"},"content":{"rendered":"

The Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers was one of several groups that recently met with White House staff members<\/a> as part of a White House meeting with\u00a0the Secular Coalition for America.<\/p>\n

According to the MAAF web page on the meeting<\/a>, president Jason Torpy presented a briefing at the meeting that claimed to explain the relative percentages of faiths represented in the military.\u00a0 His briefing\u00a0grossly misrepresented numeric government data, apparently in an attempt to strengthen the MAAF position and demands.<\/p>\n

In what the MAAF called a “new MAAF demographics study,” which was actually an MAAF presentation of a study done by the Defense Manpower Data Center, the MAAF said<\/p>\n

DoD data show nearly one-quarter of the military is nontheistic<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Using the DMDC data, the MAAF claimed<\/a> that 23.4% of the Department of Defense was “nontheistic.”\u00a0 Based on this number, according to the MAAF, “nontheists constitute a significant portion of the military.”\u00a0 Thus,<\/p>\n

Military and Civilian leadership must recognize and support this significant demographic<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Some might say numbers don’t lie, but the MAAF certainly demonstrated that one can misrepresent them to support untrue assertions.<\/p>\n

As described in the briefing<\/a> and confirmed with the data, the MAAF obtained the 23.4% number by adding three categories: Atheist<\/em>, Agnostic<\/em>, and No Religious Preference<\/em>.\u00a0 Without further data, only the first two of those categories can accurately be described as “nontheistic” (if “not knowing” if there is a God can be considered non-theism).\u00a0 Using the same raw data as the MAAF<\/a>\u00a0(xls), “nontheists” therefore account for 0.5%<\/span><\/em> of the military population, not the MAAF number of 23.4%.\u00a0 The other 22.9% may, or may not, be “theists.”\u00a0 The data does not say.<\/p>\n

Unfortunately, the inaccurately large percentage was crucial to the MAAF\u00a0argument; the alternative would have been a number 50 times smaller, which might not have been considered “significant.”\u00a0 For example, Torpy used the claim that more than 20% of the DoD population (referring to non-theists) has “no chaplain support.”\u00a0 However, since the theistic beliefs of the “no religious preference” segment are unknown, it is impossible to know<\/em> whether or not they have “chaplain support.”<\/p>\n

(The MAAF is not the first group to claim to know the theology of those who indicate “no religious preference;” Chris Rodda of the MRFF has done essentially the same thing<\/a>.)<\/p>\n

In short, Torpy’s MAAF brief was highly misleading and inaccurate, resulting in the incorrect perception that government data indicates\u00a0“nontheists” make up “nearly a quarter” of the DoD population.\u00a0 The truth is that no government data says any such thing.<\/p>\n

When reached for comment, the MAAF defended their presentation of the data, saying they were “comfortable” with their analysis that most in the “no religious preference” category were non-theists.\u00a0 They asserted that religious people with any “measurable faith” wouldn’t choose that category (though, apparently, non-theists with any ‘measurable faith’ in their ideology still would<\/em>):<\/p>\n

it is fair to conclude that those in majority faith categories (ie, Christian) with any measurable faith would choose their specific denomination<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The MAAF may believe<\/em> that, but the government data they used doesn’t support<\/em> such a claim.\u00a0 (There’s a certain irony in a group of atheists believing in something that the evidence\u00a0does not support…)<\/p>\n

It is not only intellectually dishonest to assume that those whose records indicate “no religious preference” are non-theists, it is also demonstrably false.\u00a0 For example, it is common knowledge by now that Maj Nidal Malik Hasan had “no religious preference” in his records<\/a>.\u00a0 Thus Hasan, a devout Muslim,\u00a0was one of the 23.4% that the MAAF cited as “nontheistic,” which is obviously untrue.<\/p>\n

While there are some suggestions that “nontheists” may be a growing population in the US, the DMDC data that the MAAF used was unrelated to that topic.\u00a0 Still, the MAAF did not need to misrepresent the data to request support for nonreligious personnel.<\/p>\n

Contrary to some assertions, the US military actually supports the rights of those who categorize themselves as atheists, agnostics, or “freethinkers” to congregate freely, as has been shown several times here<\/a>.\u00a0 While personnel who describe themselves as atheists or agnostics may be a very small minority, the US military still provides them the same access to resources as it does for religious faith groups, whether they are large or small.<\/p>\n

It is certainly possible that some of the “unknown” and “no religious preference” respondents were “nontheists,” but that is not the choice they communicated.\u00a0 There is no ambiguity:\u00a0 It is impossible to know the theistic beliefs of those who\u00a0gave those responses in any way, shape, or form.\u00a0 To claim otherwise is to claim a falsehood.<\/p>\n

The MAAF gave a distorted and inaccurate presentation of DMDC data to the White House in an\u00a0apparent effort to strengthen their position and justify their calls for action.\u00a0 Instead of using the opportunity to present a legitimate plea, they undermined their own position by making it appear they need to play “fun with numbers” in order to make a viable case.<\/p>\n

Though the DMDC data does not support a 23.4% assessment, there are<\/em> atheists in the military, and there are atheists in foxholes<\/a>.\u00a0 They experience much of the same support, and grief, for their ideology as do many religious personnel, including Christians.\u00a0 Military atheists are entitled to hold their beliefs, as are Christians.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n

The US military does an admirable, if sometimes imperfect,\u00a0job of allowing its members to exercise their rights of belief.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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