{"id":40120,"date":"2017-03-02T00:30:10","date_gmt":"2017-03-02T03:30:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/?p=40120"},"modified":"2017-05-10T01:33:28","modified_gmt":"2017-05-10T04:33:28","slug":"tom-carpenter-gay-chaplains-group-takes-on-tolerance-of-islam","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2017\/03\/02\/tom-carpenter-gay-chaplains-group-takes-on-tolerance-of-islam\/","title":{"rendered":"Tom Carpenter, Gay Chaplains Group Takes on Tolerance of Islam"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-40130\" src=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/tomcarpenter.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"880\" height=\"280\" srcset=\"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/tomcarpenter.jpg 880w, https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/tomcarpenter-300x95.jpg 300w, https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/tomcarpenter-768x244.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 880px) 100vw, 880px\" \/>In a fascinating example of his tone deaf prejudice, Tom Carpenter of the Forum on the Military Chaplaincy\u00a0managed to, <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/2017\/02\/28\/tom-carpenter-forum-on-the-military-chaplaincy-blind-to-own-bigotry\/\">yet again<\/a>, demonstrate his bias when he highlighted Chaplain (LtCol) Khallid Shabazz &#8212; the soon-to-be <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/2017\/03\/02\/muslim-chaplain-to-oversee-14000-troops-in-us-army-division\/\">first Muslim Division chaplain<\/a> in the US Army.\u00a0 Carpenter <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ForumontheMilitaryChaplaincy\/posts\/1231564026913403\">said<\/a>\u00a0Chaplain Shabazz was<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A real world example of how a chaplain of one faith provides support for troops and their family members who do not share his religion.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It is worth noting\u00a0<em>every<\/em> military chaplain is tasked to provide support even for those who do not share his religion\u00a0&#8212; and Carpenter has never provided a &#8220;real world example&#8221; of one who <em>didn&#8217;t<\/em>, though he has certainly made plenty of baseless accusations.<\/p>\n<p>More tellingly, Carpenter made a fascinating assumption in <!--more-->the form of a rhetorical question:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Note that most of [Shabazz&#8217;s] counseling deals with alcohol problems. As a Muslim, who do not imbibe, does he tell these Christians they must give up alcohol, or that they are sinners for using it in the first instance?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>First, upon what basis does Carpenter assume the alcoholics are Christians?<\/p>\n<p>Second, who&#8217;s to say Shabazz <em>doesn&#8217;t<\/em> describe his religious beliefs on alcohol during his counseling &#8212; something Carpenter seems to just\u00a0<em>assume<\/em>.\u00a0 In actuality, the article implies Shabazz&#8217;s beliefs <em>do<\/em> play a potentially negative role in his interactions with his troops &#8212; a fact Carpenter coyly ignored.<\/p>\n<p>To the point, though, Chaplain Shabazz&#8217;s <strong>Islamic<\/strong> faith does not allow the consumption of alcohol or pork, believes homosexuality to be abhorrent, and treats men and women <em>very<\/em> differently. Even so, Carpenter <em>assumes<\/em> Shabazz is a &#8220;real world example&#8221; of <strong>supporting the troops<\/strong>, irrespective of his beliefs.<\/p>\n<p>Fair enough.\u00a0 That&#8217;s a viewpoint that is fairly tolerant of Shabazz&#8217;s Islamic beliefs.<\/p>\n<p>However, while Christianity <em>doesn&#8217;t<\/em> prohibit alcohol or pork and presents men and women far more equitably &#8212;\u00a0its moral views on homosexuality are similar.<\/p>\n<p>Yet,\u00a0Tom Carpenter <em>assumes<\/em> a <strong>Christian<\/strong> chaplain <strong>cannot<\/strong> support the troops <em>because of his beliefs<\/em> &#8212; and therefore <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/2015\/06\/30\/after-gay-marriage-ruling-chorus-grows-for-purge-of-military-chaplains-christians\/\">shouldn&#8217;t even be <em>in<\/em> the military<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Why does Tom Carpenter assume a <strong>Christian chaplain<\/strong> <em>cannot<\/em> &#8220;support all troops&#8221; but an <strong>Islamic chaplain<\/strong> <em>can<\/em> &#8212; when some of their religious beliefs share moral aspects?<\/p>\n<p>Worse, it seems Tom Carpenter carefully edited his comments to avoid Shabazz&#8217;s own admission of the issues his faith has created.\u00a0 Contrary to his portrayal, the context surrounding Carpenter&#8217;s citation\u00a0about &#8220;Christians&#8221; and alcohol reveals that Shabazz&#8217;s religious beliefs <em>are<\/em>, in fact, a problem for some troops [emphasis added]:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Shabazz&#8230;has counseled scores of soldiers, the majority of which have sought assistance for <strong>alcoholism and relationship problems<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Some have <strong>refused to work with Shabazz because of his Muslim faith<\/strong>, but Shabazz says it doesn\u2019t bother him and that he lives by the chaplain\u2019s motto of \u201cperform or provide.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In other words, some Soldiers know he&#8217;s a Muslim and decline to seek counseling on alcohol <em>and relationships<\/em> &#8212; they &#8220;refused to work with&#8221; him\u00a0&#8212; <em>because of his religious beliefs<\/em>. (And Shabazz doesn&#8217;t even <em>care<\/em>.)<\/p>\n<p>One could argue this chaplain has\u00a0&#8220;alienated&#8221; some of his troops because of his beliefs, or that his\u00a0beliefs &#8220;make them uncomfortable.&#8221;\u00a0If he was a <strong>Christian,<\/strong> Carpenter and his supporters would say he was thus unfit to wear the uniform.<\/p>\n<p>But\u00a0Carpenter\u00a0says\u00a0a <strong>Muslim<\/strong> chaplain whose beliefs have the same effect is &#8220;supporting all the troops.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Does Carpenter not see his self-contradiction?<\/p>\n<p>In reality, the US military <em>expects<\/em> chaplains to hold to and express their religious beliefs. The US military expects its <em>troops<\/em> to be tolerant of different religious views. Troops certainly don&#8217;t have to agree with those beliefs, nor do they have to be religiously counseled under them.<\/p>\n<p>But troops or their advocates who demand chaplains with &#8220;different&#8221; religious beliefs be sanctioned or discharged are demonstrating the very prejudice the military says it opposes.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s admirable that Carpenter would judge Shabazz, a <strong>Muslim<\/strong>\u00a0chaplain,\u00a0on his conduct and performance rather than the content of\u00a0his religious beliefs, declaring that he &#8220;supports all troops&#8221; despite having beliefs that discourage some Soldiers from seeking his counsel.<\/p>\n<p>Kind of makes you wonder\u00a0what personal issue prevents Tom Carpenter from treating a <strong>Christian<\/strong> chaplain the same way.<\/p>\n<div class=\"fb-like\" data-layout=\"standard\" data-action=\"like\" data-size=\"small\" data-show-faces=\"true\" data-share=\"true\"><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\"><strong>ADVERTISEMENT<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js\"><\/script><!-- blogpost --><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display: block;\" data-ad-format=\"auto\" data-ad-slot=\"2728423835\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6450825356098669\"><\/ins><script>\n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});<\/script><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In a fascinating example of his tone deaf prejudice, Tom Carpenter of the Forum on the Military Chaplaincy\u00a0managed to, yet again, demonstrate his bias when he highlighted Chaplain (LtCol) Khallid Shabazz &#8212; the soon-to-be first Muslim Division chaplain in the US Army.\u00a0 Carpenter said\u00a0Chaplain Shabazz was A real world example of how a chaplain of one faith provides support for [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":40130,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[5284,96,2523,442,44,1959,2,17,10,171,4040],"class_list":["post-40120","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-government-and-religion","tag-chaplain","tag-christian","tag-forum-on-the-military-chaplaincy","tag-homosexual","tag-islam","tag-khallid-shabazz","tag-military","tag-religious-expression","tag-religion","tag-religious-freedom","tag-tom-carpenter"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40120","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=40120"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40120\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/40130"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=40120"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=40120"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=40120"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}