{"id":33399,"date":"2015-08-24T00:10:27","date_gmt":"2015-08-24T03:10:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/?p=33399"},"modified":"2016-11-24T22:48:30","modified_gmt":"2016-11-25T01:48:30","slug":"another-military-memorial-under-attack","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2015\/08\/24\/another-military-memorial-under-attack\/","title":{"rendered":"Another Military Memorial Under Attack"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Update<\/strong><\/span>: The creator of the monument explained the reason for his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.desmoinesregister.com\/story\/news\/crime-and-courts\/2015\/08\/28\/first-amendment-religious-freedom\/71284440\/\">design here<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Al Larsen intended the small Latin cross in each silhouette to mark a grave \u2014 like the rows of white crosses at the Normandy American Cemetery in France, where more than 9,000 American World War II troops are buried.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis is what it means to me,\u201d Larsen said in an interview Wednesday. \u201cIt don\u2019t mean no church thing.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Americans United for the Separation of Church and State claims otherwise.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/www.christianfighterpilot.com\/images\/knoxvillememorial.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"545\" height=\"393\" \/>Todd Starnes at FoxNews highlights an effort by the Americans United for the Separation of Church and State to have a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/opinion\/2015\/08\/20\/group-is-gunning-for-small-towns-veteran-memorial-cross.html\">war memorial removed<\/a> from a park in Knoxville, Iowa:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cIt was clear to us it was a memorial to fallen veterans,\u201d Mayor Brian Hatch told me. But it wasn\u2019t clear to everyone.<\/p>\n<p>About a month ago a citizen filed an anonymous complaint &#8212; arguing that the memorial was promoting Christianity and therefore violated the Establishment Clause of the U.S. Constitution.<\/p>\n<p>Mayor Hatch told me the city council ignored the complaint.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe didn\u2019t take any action because it (the memorial) did not have any religious ties to us at all,\u201d he said. \u201cI only see it as a memorial to the veterans and it shocked me that someone could see it otherwise.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The offended party apparently called the AU, and the fight was on.<\/p>\n<p>Americans United has since published a <a href=\"https:\/\/au.org\/blogs\/wall-of-separation\/cross-punch-activists-wrong-to-cite-arlington-national-cemetery-in-their\">snarky reply<\/a>, noting <!--more-->that Todd Starnes asked if the AU was going to<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>demand that Arlington Cemetery remove their crosses?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The AU&#8217;s Sarah Jones\u00a0scoffed, noting Arlington headstones aren&#8217;t crosses and highlighting the common social confusion between Arlington National Cemetery and the cemeteries in Europe (near Normandy) with rows of white crosses.<\/p>\n<p>But Starnes didn&#8217;t say <em>headstones<\/em>.\u00a0 He said <em>crosses<\/em> in Arlington Cemetery.\u00a0 There are at least two large, cross-shaped memorials in Arlington: The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.arlingtoncemetery.mil\/Explore-the-Cemetery\/Monuments-and-Memorials\/Canadian-Cross\">Canadian Cross<\/a> and the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.arlingtoncemetery.mil\/Explore-the-Cemetery\/Monuments-and-Memorials\/Argonne-Cross\">Argonne Cross<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Starnes&#8217; question remains valid:\u00a0 Will the AU demand Arlington remove their crosses? That was a bridge too far even for the ACLU, but <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/2011\/11\/23\/military-atheist-calls-for-removal-of-arlington-cross\/\">not Jason Torpy<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Sarah Jones offered a &#8220;friendly suggestion&#8221; that critics cite the correct cemetery.\u00a0 Maybe she&#8217;ll take a &#8220;friendly suggestion&#8221; to not be so quick to be dismissive, and learn what&#8217;s actually <em>in<\/em> the Arlington National Cemetery.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, this is only the latest such attack on war memorials. Similar battles have been fought on various scales and <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/2013\/06\/27\/atheists-target-military-memorials-again\/\">over various memorials<\/a>, with some towns emerging victorious and others folding out of fear of legal fees. Just a few weeks ago a county voted to remove a memorial that had an <em>ichthus<\/em> on it &#8212; despite the fact the <em>ichthus<\/em> wasn&#8217;t even <em>visible<\/em>. Even Michael &#8220;Mikey&#8221; Weinstein, who claims he <em>supports<\/em> religious freedom, has joined those <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/2015\/05\/12\/mrff-joins-lawsuit-against-memorial-cross\/\">attacking a 90-year old WWI memorial<\/a> because it is in the shape of a cross.<\/p>\n<p>The Knoxville memorial is nearly identical to <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/2012\/11\/15\/atheists-broaden-attacks-on-military-memorials\/\">the one in King, North Carolina,<\/a>\u00a0which was <a href=\"http:\/\/www.latimes.com\/entertainment\/arts\/culture\/la-et-cm-north-carolina-town-sculpture-cross-soldier-20150113-story.html\">eventually removed<\/a> after a lawsuit &#8212; also\u00a0by AU, which also garnered the AU $500,000.<\/p>\n<p>As has been discussed here many times, the image of a soldier kneeling at a cross-shaped headstone is both iconic and real. It represents something of particular value to those who have &#8220;been there.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>For those who simply want to scrub any resemblance of Christianity from the public square, however, it apparently means nothing.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\">Also at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.stripes.com\/news\/veterans\/group-opposes-vets-memorial-in-city-park-that-features-cross-1.365238\">Stars and Stripes<\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"fb-like\" data-share=\"true\" data-show-faces=\"true\" data-size=\"small\" data-action=\"like\" data-layout=\"standard\"><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\"><strong>ADVERTISEMENT<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js\"><\/script><!-- blogpost --><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display: block;\" data-ad-format=\"auto\" data-ad-slot=\"2728423835\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6450825356098669\"><\/ins><script>\n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});<\/script><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Update: The creator of the monument explained the reason for his design here: Al Larsen intended the small Latin cross in each silhouette to mark a grave \u2014 like the rows of white crosses at the Normandy American Cemetery in France, where more than 9,000 American World War II troops are buried. \u201cThis is what it means to me,\u201d Larsen [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":33417,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[12,60,2442,1490,5288,5290,96,82,3479,3301,253,5287,85,2,5218,7,10,171,5289,2628,1375],"class_list":["post-33399","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-government-and-religion","tag-aclu","tag-americans-united","tag-argonne","tag-arlington","tag-brian-hatch","tag-canadian-cross","tag-christian","tag-constitution","tag-ichthus","tag-iowa","tag-jason-torpy","tag-knoxville","tag-mikey-weinstein","tag-military","tag-military-religious-freedom-foundation","tag-mrff","tag-religion","tag-religious-freedom","tag-sarah-jones","tag-todd-starnes","tag-war-memorial-protection-act"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33399","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=33399"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33399\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/33417"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=33399"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=33399"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=33399"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}