{"id":29753,"date":"2014-08-14T01:00:43","date_gmt":"2014-08-14T04:00:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/?p=29753"},"modified":"2016-11-25T01:17:57","modified_gmt":"2016-11-25T04:17:57","slug":"navy-bans-bibles-after-atheist-complaint","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2014\/08\/14\/navy-bans-bibles-after-atheist-complaint\/","title":{"rendered":"Navy Bans Bibles after Atheist Complaint"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Update<\/strong><\/span>: The Navy has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.stripes.com\/news\/us\/navy-tells-lodges-to-put-removed-bibles-back-into-rooms-1.298351\">reversed the decision<\/a> of NEXCOM, saying it was made <a href=\"http:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/article\/20140814\/NEWS\/308140063\/Bibles-back-Navy-Lodges-now\">without consultation<\/a> with Navy leadership.\u00a0 The Bibles <a href=\"http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/opinion\/2014\/08\/15\/navy-reverses-bible-ban\/\">will be returned<\/a> to the hotel rooms and will not be removed.\u00a0 Retired Chaplain (Col) Ron Crews had <a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianpost.com\/news\/chaplain-alliance-urges-navy-to-reverse-decision-on-removing-bibles-from-rooms-following-atheist-groups-complaint-124803\/\">called on the Navy<\/a> to reverse the policy.\u00a0 The Navy now joins the Air Force in having been attacked for its lodging facility Bibles &#8212; and, for the moment, withstood the attack.\u00a0 Also at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianpost.com\/news\/navy-reverses-decision-to-remove-bibles-from-rooms-reviews-policy-124881\/\">Christian Post<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.onenewsnow.com\/culture\/2014\/08\/15\/a-victory-for-now-for-religious-freedom-navy-will-allow-bibles-during-review\">OneNewsNow<\/a>, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianpost.com\/news\/navy-reverses-decision-to-remove-bibles-from-rooms-reviews-policy-124881\/\">Washington Times<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.religionnews.com\/2014\/08\/15\/bibles-navy-atheists\/\">Religion News Service<\/a>, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thenewamerican.com\/culture\/faith-and-morals\/item\/18945-navy-does-about-face-orders-return-of-bibles-to-guest-rooms\">New American<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wbir.com\/story\/news\/nation-now\/2014\/08\/15\/navy-reverses-decision-to-remove-bibles-from-lodges\/14128149\/\">USA Today<\/a>.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>As first reported by the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.afa.net\/action-alerts\/navy-orders-bibles-removed-from-base-hotels\/\">American Family Association<\/a>, the Freedom From Religion Foundation filed a complaint with the US Navy because there were Gideon Bibles in the nightstands at Navy lodging facilities.<\/p>\n<p>So the Navy <a href=\"http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/opinion\/2014\/08\/11\/navy-removes-bibles-from-guest-rooms\/\">decided to remove them<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cThe current direction is to remove all religious material from Navy Lodge guest rooms,\u201d read an email to a Navy chaplain from The Navy Exchange Service Command (NEXCOM).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Jason Torpy of the MAAF tried a few years ago to<!--more--> do the <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2012\/04\/17\/air-force-may-remove-bibles-from-military-hotel-rooms\/\">same thing with the Air Force<\/a>, though he succeeded only in <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2013\/09\/17\/mrff-atheists-commissary-manager-grumble-over-bibles\/\">changing a checklist<\/a>. Turns out the Bibles are still present in many US Air Force lodging facilities, and the Air Force does not have a policy prohibiting them.<\/p>\n<p>As has been said about similar issues in the past, nothing about the practice of the Christian faith requires a Bible in a nightstand of a hotel. But to see an arm of the US government proactively remove Bibles for no other reason than someone complained does, as Ron Crews said, seem like an attack specifically on Christianity.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cThis is just one more assault by military leaders against anything Christian,\u201d Crews told me. \u201cIt\u2019s getting tiresome to see senior military leaders cave in to those who appear to be offended by Christians, by Christian symbols and now by the Bible itself.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>To be fair to Chaplain Crews&#8217; statement, it does appear Christianity is rapidly losing the tolerance culture war in the military. No policy or law requires the Bibles to be removed, so why not let them stay? Why make such a dramatic and controversial change in response to an external complaint?<\/p>\n<p>Why publicly agree with atheists that Bibles in a hotel room violate the US Constitution?<\/p>\n<p>One of the anonymous complainants went so far as to say he<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;never saw a Book of Mormon or Koran&#8221; in any Navy-run lodge<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That&#8217;s an interesting and irrelevant statement. If there&#8217;s an organization that has attempted to place Korans in Lodges <em>and they&#8217;ve been denied<\/em>, <em>that&#8217;s<\/em> relevant. It is not the Navy&#8217;s responsibility to beg other religions to provide materials. This is a twisting of the doctrine that a forum open to multiple faiths is Constitutionally acceptable. The doctrine has been reversed to say the <em>government<\/em> is responsible for <em>filling<\/em> that forum. This was the same twisted logic used to remove a Nativity from an Air Force base. While the forum was open to all, only Christians showed up &#8212; so the <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2013\/12\/12\/shaw-afb-statement-on-nativity\/\">entire display was removed<\/a>. It seems Christians now need to provide representation for others in order to represent themselves.<\/p>\n<p>In the end, it is likely that many government organizations like NEXCOM capitulate to these &#8220;militant&#8221; atheists simply because they&#8217;re the loudest voice in the room. After all, what group will now file a lawsuit claiming NEXCOM&#8217;s decision violated the Constitution? Not only is that out of character with most Christian organizations, they&#8217;d also likely lose that lawsuit. Of course, atheists would have lost theirs, too, but NEXCOM capitulated nonetheless. Whether that&#8217;s because they figured it was &#8220;easier&#8221; to give in or because they actually agreed with the atheists, we may never know.<\/p>\n<p>Since the Navy created a policy to remove Bibles from lodging facilities <em>only because someone complained<\/em> &#8212; not because it was actually <em>required<\/em> &#8212; the Navy risks contributing to the perception that the US military is hostile to religion. After all, they essentially agreed with the FRFF, who claimed victory and then <a href=\"http:\/\/ffrf.org\/news\/action\/item\/21159-ffrf-victory-bibles-to-be-removed-from-navy-lodges-after-ffrf-complaint\">said of the Bible<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cWe shouldn\u2019t have to pay high prices to be proselytized in the privacy of our own hotel or motel room. We shouldn\u2019t have to open our bedside table to find in it a so-called \u2018holy book\u2019 which glorifies violence and discrimination against nonbelievers, women, gays and children,\u201d said FFRF Co-President Dan Barker.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That&#8217;s the &#8220;tolerance&#8221; and respect for diversity with which the Navy is now associated.<\/p>\n<p>Had the Navy responded to the atheists that it neither required nor banned religious texts from rooms, it would have communicated a policy of neutrality without creating the perception it was caving to &#8220;militant&#8221; atheists who desire not religious equality, but removing religion from the public square.\u00a0 Interestingly, the DoD just <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2014\/08\/13\/atheists-attack-military-bibles-dod-defends\/\">made that same argument<\/a> about MEPS in the face of <em>another<\/em> atheist complaint, so its unclear why the Navy didn&#8217;t follow suit.<\/p>\n<p>The general response of the government recently seems to have largely agreed with critics of religious liberty: Freedom of religion is fine in the United States &#8212; so long as you keep it to yourself.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\">This story has been widely covered at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.charismanews.com\/opinion\/45003-this-is-more-than-just-another-assault-against-christians\">Charisma News<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cbn.com\/cbnnews\/us\/2014\/August\/Navy-Caves-to-Atheists-Yanks-Bibles-from-Hotels-\/\">CBN News<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/christiannews.net\/2014\/08\/13\/bibles-booted-from-u-s-navy-guest-rooms-following-atheist-complaint\/\">Christian News Network<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.onenewsnow.com\/national-security\/2014\/08\/13\/atheists-now-telling-us-navy-what-books-are-allowed\">One News Now<\/a> (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.onenewsnow.com\/culture\/2014\/08\/12\/us-navy-booting-bibles-from-base-lodges\">twice<\/a>), the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.religionnews.com\/2014\/08\/12\/u-s-navy-remove-religious-articles-guest-houses\/\">Religion News Service<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/national\/religion\/bibles-booted-from-us-navy-base-guest-rooms\/2014\/08\/12\/67bdd360-2262-11e4-8b10-7db129976abb_story.html\">The Washington Post<\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"fb-like\" data-share=\"true\" data-show-faces=\"true\" data-size=\"small\" data-action=\"like\" data-layout=\"standard\"><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\"><strong>ADVERTISEMENT<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js\"><\/script><!-- blogpost --><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display: block;\" data-ad-format=\"auto\" data-ad-slot=\"2728423835\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6450825356098669\"><\/ins><script>\n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});<\/script><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Update: The Navy has reversed the decision of NEXCOM, saying it was made without consultation with Navy leadership.\u00a0 The Bibles will be returned to the hotel rooms and will not be removed.\u00a0 Retired Chaplain (Col) Ron Crews had called on the Navy to reverse the policy.\u00a0 The Navy now joins the Air Force in having been attacked for its lodging [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[20,23,5284,96,82,1307,253,85,2,5218,7,36,4871,10,171,1997],"class_list":["post-29753","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-government-and-religion","tag-atheism","tag-bible","tag-chaplain","tag-christian","tag-constitution","tag-freedom-from-religion-foundation","tag-jason-torpy","tag-mikey-weinstein","tag-military","tag-military-religious-freedom-foundation","tag-mrff","tag-navy","tag-nexcom","tag-religion","tag-religious-freedom","tag-ron-crews"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29753","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=29753"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29753\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=29753"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=29753"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=29753"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}