{"id":28227,"date":"2014-02-04T02:57:07","date_gmt":"2014-02-04T05:57:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/?p=28227"},"modified":"2016-10-01T23:41:47","modified_gmt":"2016-10-02T02:41:47","slug":"klingenschmitt-chaplains-statement-proves-need-for-protections","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2014\/02\/04\/klingenschmitt-chaplains-statement-proves-need-for-protections\/","title":{"rendered":"Klingenschmitt: Chaplain&#8217;s Statement Proves Need for Protections"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Former US Navy Chaplain Gordon Klingenschmitt <a href=\"http:\/\/www.onenewsnow.com\/national-security\/2014\/01\/31\/conservative-chaplains-have-gone-underground-afraid-of-persecution\">recently responded<\/a> to <a href=\"http:\/\/docs.house.gov\/meetings\/AS\/AS02\/20140129\/101681\/HHRG-113-AS02-Wstate-MagnessJ-20140129.pdf\">testimony by the Rev James Magness<\/a>, the Episcopal Church&#8217;s Armed Forces Bishop, given at the House Armed Services Committee (previously <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2014\/01\/30\/congress-hears-testimony-on-military-religious-freedom\/\">discussed here<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Klingenschmitt calls it arrogant for James Magness, the Washington National Cathedral&#8217;s bishop for the armed forces, to say that chaplains who pray in Jesus&#8217; name risk offending non-Christian troops and harming unit cohesion.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;This quote by him demonstrates exactly the reason <!--more-->we need religious freedom in the military,&#8221; says the former chaplain. &#8220;Because if we don&#8217;t have it, then you have liberal senior chaplains imposing their religion on everybody.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The context is a story Magness told about himself (which has been his go-to tale <a href=\"http:\/\/federalministriesoftec.blogspot.com\/2011_07_01_archive.html\">repeated for years<\/a>), in which he closed a prayer &#8220;through Jesus Christ our Lord&#8221; at a Navy Captain&#8217;s retirement ceremony &#8212; when the retiree and his family were all Jewish. Of his own conduct, Magness said<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I created a potential violation of the need for unit cohesion, good order and discipline, and the individual&#8217;s Constitutional rights. The service member for whom my prayers were offered was offended, and he should have been offended.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Given that the Captain was retiring, it was unlikely &#8220;unit cohesion, good order and discipline&#8221; were affected, nor did such a prayer reasonably constitute government action that actually offended the Captain&#8217;s constitutional rights. (Fortunately, Magness is a bishop, not a lawyer or commander.)<\/p>\n<p>Still, Magness was correct to acknowledge the retiree had every right to be personally offended &#8212; because retirements are ceremonies intended to honor the <em>individual<\/em>. Young in his first assignment, Magness presumably learned from that incident to talk to the retiree before such a ceremony, so as to understand <em>their<\/em> wishes for <em>their<\/em> ceremony, as any courteous person should.<\/p>\n<p>Based on the rest of the testimony, Klingenschmitt does have a valid point. Magness is wrong to extrapolate that example to all public prayer in the military, implying that such prayers are, <em>ipso facto<\/em>, contrary to good order and discipline. (To be clear, Magness did not call for such a policy.) Even without a policy change, a &#8220;Chaplain Magness&#8221; could influence his subordinate chaplains in a manner not consistent with religious liberty because of a <em>feeling<\/em> he had, rather than what the law requires.\u00a0 Again, chaplains are bishops, priests and pastors &#8212; not lawyers, and not military commanders.<\/p>\n<p>Such improper influences &#8212; even from well-meaning chaplains &#8212; would best be addressed by clear and unequivocal DoD guidance protecting religious liberty; absent that, it should be made clear in the law.<\/p>\n<div class=\"fb-like\" data-layout=\"standard\" data-action=\"like\" data-size=\"small\" data-show-faces=\"true\" data-share=\"true\"><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\"><strong>ADVERTISEMENT<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js\"><\/script><!-- blogpost --><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display: block;\" data-ad-format=\"auto\" data-ad-slot=\"2728423835\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6450825356098669\"><\/ins><script>\n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});<\/script><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Former US Navy Chaplain Gordon Klingenschmitt recently responded to testimony by the Rev James Magness, the Episcopal Church&#8217;s Armed Forces Bishop, given at the House Armed Services Committee (previously discussed here): Klingenschmitt calls it arrogant for James Magness, the Washington National Cathedral&#8217;s bishop for the armed forces, to say that chaplains who pray in Jesus&#8217; name risk offending non-Christian troops [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[5284,78,82,276,4608,39,2,36,11,17,10,171],"class_list":["post-28227","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-government-and-religion","tag-chaplain","tag-congress","tag-constitution","tag-gordon-klingenschmitt","tag-james-magness","tag-jewish","tag-military","tag-navy","tag-prayer","tag-religious-expression","tag-religion","tag-religious-freedom"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28227","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=28227"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28227\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=28227"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=28227"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=28227"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}