{"id":18609,"date":"2012-07-18T00:50:56","date_gmt":"2012-07-18T03:50:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/?p=18609"},"modified":"2015-06-27T19:13:11","modified_gmt":"2015-06-27T22:13:11","slug":"newest-academy-cadets-eat-doughnuts-told-to-let-go-of-god","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2012\/07\/18\/newest-academy-cadets-eat-doughnuts-told-to-let-go-of-god\/","title":{"rendered":"Newest Academy Cadets Eat Doughnuts, Told to Let Go of God"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jason Torpy of the Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers is currently engaged in his annual campaign on atheism at the US military academies, which coincides with basic training at each service academy.\u00a0 The <em>Christian Post <\/em>picked up on his discussion, and noted that some version of non-sectarian offering was <a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianpost.com\/news\/military-atheist-group-offers-alternative-to-church-at-academies-78349\/\">available during basic training<\/a> to new cadets.<\/p>\n<p>Chaplain Ron Crews of the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty acknowledges that those who choose to have no religious faith also have rights &#8212; but questions their desire to mimic religious institutions and have chaplains:\u00a0 <!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;People of no faith, or those who hold humanist views have constitutional rights as well as believers,&#8221; Crews told The Christian Post. &#8220;It is fine that they can meet and have their &#8216;non-worship&#8217; events. However, these same groups are also asking to have &#8216;chaplains&#8217; from their non-faith perspectives to be allowed on active duty. I believe this is inconsistent with what chaplains are about.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The military can provide counselors to meet these needs. The very purpose of chaplains is to provide for the spiritual needs of those they serve. One cannot provide for spiritual needs without acknowledging there is a spiritual dimension,&#8221; he said.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Crews has a valid point, and the military not only <em>can<\/em> provide counselors for secular purposes &#8212; <em>it already does<\/em>.\u00a0 For some reason, though, some military atheists\u00a0don&#8217;t want secular counselors &#8212; they want <em>chaplains<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Former Navy Chaplain Gordon Klingenschmitt says the reason is atheists are actually trying to end the military chaplaincy altogether:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;If they had their way all chaplains would be fired. But the courts have decided our troops have a first amendment right to be accompanied by a chaplain who represents their faith, so the atheists must attempt another method,&#8221; Klingenschmitt said.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>While it may be a bit conspiratorial, there may also be some validity to that viewpoint.\u00a0 After all, when he <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2012\/04\/02\/fort-bragg-hosts-uneventful-atheist-festival\/\">organized &#8220;Rock Beyond Belief,&#8221;<\/a> US Army Sgt Justin Griffith made a point of saying its true purpose <em>wasn&#8217;t <\/em>to provide secular fellowship and entertainment &#8212; his goal was to make religious events so unpalatable they&#8217;d never occur again.\u00a0 Thus, Klingenschmitt&#8217;s perception that some atheists&#8217; real goal is\u00a0to undermine the freedoms of their fellow religious troops &#8212; not celebrate any freedom of their own &#8212; has already played out in real life.<\/p>\n<p>Most interesting, however, was Klingenschmitt&#8217;s response to the atheist &#8220;church&#8221; offered at the military academies, which at Annapolis included a &#8220;Doughnuts, Downtime, and DVD&#8221; sermon by Julia Sweeney on &#8220;Letting Go of God:&#8221;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I think it&#8217;s sad how atheists are using a government forum and resources to openly recruit Christian cadets into atheism or secular humanism. What should Christian parents think, when their 18-year-old son or daughter is promised donuts, but gets a lecture about &#8216;letting go of God&#8217; and proselytizing into rejecting their parents&#8217; faith? Atheists define themselves by what they are against (God), not by any good they stand for. But the Bible says &#8216;the fool says in his heart, there is no God.'&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Klingenschmitt has, intentionally or not, turned the atheists&#8217; argument back on them.\u00a0 In fact, the MRFF&#8217;s Chris Rodda has <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2012\/03\/16\/chapel-basic-training-doughnuts-and-lemonade\/\">accused Christians<\/a> of using <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/09\/02\/group-complains-of-religious-training-at-lackland-afb\/\">ice cream and pizza<\/a> in similar circumstances to sucker naive, innocent trainees into the evil Christian fold.<\/p>\n<p>The truth is that cadets at US military academies are adults &#8212; and bright ones, at that (most of the time).\u00a0 They are &#8212; or should be &#8212; capable of making adult decisions about their spiritual lives, whether that decision is to celebrate, join, or leave a religious faith.\u00a0 The military doesn&#8217;t need to influence that one way or the other.\u00a0 It only needs to protect their right to exercise their faith, whatever that faith may be.<\/p>\n<p>The bigger question is missed:\u00a0 Why are atheist events &#8212; which are self-proclaimed <em>alternatives <\/em>to religion, not independent ideologies &#8212; being granted equal status with religion?\u00a0 Torpy&#8217;s logic is weak, relying on an &#8220;If Christians, then atheists&#8230;&#8221;, but no such equivalence exists, nor are the academies required to provide a &#8220;counter&#8221; to religion simply because they allow religion.<\/p>\n<p>Bluntly, the academies are not required to allow or sponsor an anti-Jewish group of cadets merely because they allow a group of Jewish cadets.\u00a0 That&#8217;s apparently not how these military atheists see it.<\/p>\n<p>The military has, for centuries, paused in its training to allow those of religious faith to exercise their faith.\u00a0 (In fact, armies have even paused in their armed combat for the same reason&#8230;) If the military wants to change that tradition to an open &#8220;free time&#8221; where trainees can exercise their faith or not, fine.\u00a0 But when the military starts supporting non-religious &#8212; or worse, <em>anti-religious <\/em>&#8212; groups during these training pauses, it becomes problematic.\u00a0 It opens itself up to some valid questions, like why only religious groups and atheists?\u00a0 Why not a political group, or a Toastmasters, or a chess club?<\/p>\n<p>It also begs the question why\u00a0the military\u00a0feels the need to openly support not\u00a0&#8220;freethinking,&#8221; but rather pointed, anti-religious &#8220;evangelism&#8221; that exists not to &#8220;celebrate&#8221; reason, but to tear down religion.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jason Torpy of the Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers is currently engaged in his annual campaign on atheism at the US military academies, which coincides with basic training at each service academy.\u00a0 The Christian Post picked up on his discussion, and noted that some version of non-sectarian offering was available during basic training to new cadets. 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