{"id":18436,"date":"2012-07-06T01:22:51","date_gmt":"2012-07-06T04:22:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/?p=18436"},"modified":"2013-10-30T20:07:16","modified_gmt":"2013-10-30T23:07:16","slug":"chaplains-report-on-turmoil-or-lack-thereof-post-dadt-repeal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2012\/07\/06\/chaplains-report-on-turmoil-or-lack-thereof-post-dadt-repeal\/","title":{"rendered":"Chaplains Report on Turmoil, or Lack Thereof, post-DADT Repeal"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Associated Press <a href=\"http:\/\/www.greenfieldreporter.com\/view\/story\/07b984d429744e8dbab260255c697d28\/US--Military-Chaplains-Gays\">interviewed a small sampling of chaplains and chaplain endorsers<\/a> in an apparent attempt to assess the impact of open service by homosexuals following last year&#8217;s repeal of the policy best known as &#8220;don&#8217;t ask, don&#8217;t tell.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>One interesting subject was Chaplain (Col) Timothy Wagoner, a Southern Baptist who attended the recent controversial\u00a0same-sex union ceremony <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2012\/06\/15\/homosexual-ceremony-conducted-in-military-chapel-despite-law\/\">held in a military chapel<\/a> to show his &#8220;support.&#8221;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;As a Southern Baptist, why was I here? I was here to lend support,&#8221; Wagoner said. &#8220;I was here supporting Airman Umali. I&#8217;ve worked with him. He&#8217;s a comrade in arms.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m also supporting Chaplain Reeb,&#8221; he said. &#8220;She gave a beautiful ceremony.&#8221;\u00a0 <!--more--><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That&#8217;s an interesting perspective from a chaplain whose denominational beliefs would theoretically object to the immorality of the &#8220;beautiful ceremony.&#8221;\u00a0 Of course, people often &#8220;lend support&#8221; to others without condoning their conduct, as they might if they showed up at a criminal trial to &#8220;support&#8221; the defendant they knew to be in the wrong.\u00a0 Chaplain Wagoner&#8217;s comments are unfortunately insufficient to understand his position on the subject, except to say he wouldn&#8217;t <em>officiate <\/em>the ceremony.<\/p>\n<p>Interestingly, while the article headline and other media sites have used similar quotes to promote the &#8220;non-event&#8221; of DADT repeal, the article is actually filled with chaplains and their endorsers saying what many have:\u00a0 There are many questions and ambiguities that won&#8217;t be answered until a policy comes out &#8212; or someone crosses a line:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;To say the dust has settled would be premature,&#8221; said Air Force Col. Gary Linsky, a Roman Catholic priest who oversees 50 fellow chaplains in the Air Mobility Command&#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;There have been no overt difficulties,&#8221; [Archbishop Timothy Broglio] said. &#8220;It&#8217;s more a question of what might occur in the future.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>Frank Clawson, director of military relations for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints&#8230;remains wary that the military could become increasingly inhospitable to religious conservatives.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t know if the vote is in yet,&#8221; he said. &#8220;The pendulum has swung the other way, to where if you do have a faith, you&#8217;re almost looked down on.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>Wagoner suggested there were &#8220;no hard answers&#8221; to some potential dilemmas, such as if a conservative chaplain objected to participating at a marriage retreat that included a same-sex couple&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Think of it as an experiment,&#8221; Wagoner said of the post-repeal era. &#8220;It&#8217;s evolving.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The problem is military chaplains and servicemembers are <em>living <\/em>in that &#8220;experiment&#8221; right now, complete with its uncertainties and ambiguities.\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2012\/05\/18\/white-house-strongly-objects-to-religious-liberty-provisions\/\">Attempts to eliminate those ambiguities<\/a> have been met with hostility.<\/p>\n<p>In a bit of possible assumptive bias, the article describes those who have raised warnings this way:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The loudest assertions that conservative chaplains face problems come from outside the active-duty ranks, notably from a coalition of retired chaplains and other religious leaders called the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The problem with the AP&#8217;s distinction is that CARL is made up of chaplain endorsers &#8212; the very same people the article previously quoted without qualification.\u00a0 They are no more &#8220;outside the active duty ranks&#8221; than the other endorsers, yet they are framed as an unrelated external group.<\/p>\n<p>If nothing else, it seems the article demonstrates that a group of interviews can be made to support any headline one can create.\u00a0 Right now, that headline is that DADT repeal has led to &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.vcstar.com\/news\/2012\/jul\/03\/bc-us--military-chaplains-gays-adv051602-as-gays\/\">few problems<\/a>,&#8221; and lacks the &#8220;turmoil&#8221; that &#8220;outsiders&#8221; predicted.<\/p>\n<p class=\"smallfont\">Also at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.airforcetimes.com\/news\/2012\/07\/ap-military-chaplains-few-issues-dont-ask-dont-tell-repeal-070512\/\">Military Times<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Associated Press interviewed a small sampling of chaplains and chaplain endorsers in an apparent attempt to assess the impact of open service by homosexuals following last year&#8217;s repeal of the policy best known as &#8220;don&#8217;t ask, don&#8217;t tell.&#8221; 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