{"id":16876,"date":"2012-03-14T00:12:31","date_gmt":"2012-03-14T03:12:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/?p=16876"},"modified":"2015-06-27T19:14:02","modified_gmt":"2015-06-27T22:14:02","slug":"military-atheist-festival-claims-right-to-denigrate-religion-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2012\/03\/14\/military-atheist-festival-claims-right-to-denigrate-religion-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Military Atheist Festival Claims Right to Denigrate Religion"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In keeping with the theme that atheists cannot fellowship together <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/07\/20\/usafa-atheists-need-freedom-to-denigrate\/\">without the ability to denigrate religion<\/a>, organizers of the atheist &#8220;Rock Beyond Belief&#8221; to be held at Fort Bragg have secured the explicit &#8220;guarantee&#8221; of the US Army that they can criticize religion &#8212; and people who are religious.<\/p>\n<p>According to their announcement, Garrison Commander Col Stephen Sicinski has said he respects<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>that the speakers may criticize organized religion or its practitioners&#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Because this event is now &#8220;cleared&#8221; to criticize religion, while the Billy Graham Evangelical Association&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/03\/11\/can-atheist-rock-beyond-belief-meet-army-restrictions\/\">Rock the Fort was <em>not<\/em><\/a>, the MRFF&#8217;s Chris Rodda claims this is a coup.<\/p>\n<p>She doesn&#8217;t realize the joke is on her.\u00a0 <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Fort Bragg took the recent public attention of RBB&#8217;s performers seriously and <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2012\/01\/30\/fort-bragg-reviewing-atheist-rock-beyond-belief-lineup\/\">reviewed the acts<\/a>. It appears Col Sicinski attempted to give Justin Griffith the same guidance he gave the Fort Bragg chaplains regarding the Christian event: the performers were allowed to &#8220;make no statements critical of other religions.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Rather than accept this &#8220;equal treatment&#8221; (which an RBB rep previously <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2012\/02\/07\/rock-beyond-belief-drops-atheist-anthem-from-website\/\">said they <em>would<\/em> follow<\/a>),\u00a0Griffith apparently refused. (Ironically, for weeks Chris Rodda has been incredulous at implications RBB performers would be unable to perform without criticizing religion. Now it seems they <em>can&#8217;t<\/em>&#8230;) In an effort that almost certainly included his legal representation, Griffith went back and forth with Col Sicinski, finally arriving at the above quote.<\/p>\n<p>(For the record, without being specific Col Sicinski said some of the bands&#8217; songs were &#8220;filled with hatred&#8221; and were inappropriate for the event. He also said, without being specific, he will terminate any performer who undermines good order and discipline or criticizes the Army.)<\/p>\n<p>Contrary to Rodda&#8217;s tortured machinations, if the military is going to treat atheism as a religion (another debate in itself), this is precisely the <strong><em>correct <\/em><\/strong>course of action. <em>Every <\/em>religion should be able to freely express its tenets in gatherings intended to be a fellowship of adherents. That&#8217;s the heart of religious freedom.<\/p>\n<p>So why, in the nearly two years since, have Griffith and his associates failed to defend the performers at Rock the Fort, who, by the atheists&#8217; logic, were unconstitutionally restricted in their religious exercise and free speech? (In fact, while they&#8217;re claiming constitutional <em>protection <\/em>for their own event, they claimed Rock the Fort <em>violated <\/em>the Constitution.)<\/p>\n<p>The answer is simple: Michael Weinstein.<\/p>\n<p>Back when &#8220;Rock Beyond Belief&#8221; was still the &#8220;Fort Bragg Freedom Festival,&#8221; Justin Griffith made adamant claims that atheists only wanted &#8220;equal treatment.&#8221; Then-SPC Griffith was clear this was <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2010\/10\/04\/atheists-to-take-up-ft-bragg-generals-offer\/#comment-8890\">to be a positive event<\/a> [emphasis added]:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I\u2019d like to say thank you for the honest appraisal of our website, JD. Our conversation was meaningful and respectful, and I was very pleased with the outcome. We knew that we were going to \u2018agree to disagree\u2019 about a few things, but apart from that, I think we agreed on the important parts&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>We are <strong>not holding an anti-religious event<\/strong>. We are <strong>not holding an anti-theist, or anti-Christian event <\/strong>either. We are simply putting on a day of secular entertainment&#8230;We are <strong>not trying to say that our secular way is the only way \/ right way<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>We are celebrating in a way that we wish that the Rock the Fort organizers had chosen to do so&#8230;We are taking the high road.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>What happened to the &#8220;high road?&#8221; Not long after Griffith posted that comment to this site, he met Michael Weinstein.<\/p>\n<p>Michael Weinstein (who is also an RBB speaker) is the <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2012\/02\/09\/michael-weinstein-cuts-pay-now-under-half-of-charitys-revenue\/\">sole paid officer of his self-founded &#8220;charity&#8221;<\/a> which <em>he<\/em> says fights for religious freedom. He has championed the cause of the atheists, even threatening to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.examiner.com\/atheism-in-national\/rock-beyond-belief-canceled-us-army-being-sued-federal-court\">sue on their behalf<\/a> &#8212; so why has he never criticized Fort Bragg&#8217;s restriction of the &#8220;religious freedom&#8221; of Christians at &#8220;Rock the Fort?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>This episode is only the most recent clear-cut demonstration of the farce of Michael Weinstein&#8217;s claim he fights for &#8220;religious freedom.&#8221; He fights, no doubt &#8212; but it is in the name of a personal vendetta that has nothing to do with religious freedom in the US military.<\/p>\n<p>When the speech of Christians exercising their faith was restricted, Michael Weinstein and his &#8220;religious freedom&#8221; foundation said <em>nothing<\/em>. When the speech of atheists was to be treated the <em>same <\/em>as the Christians, well, you see what happened.<\/p>\n<p>So while Chris Rodda is giddy over the atheists&#8217; freedom to do what Christians could not, the incident actually makes her MRFF, and Michael Weinstein, out to be the fools.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In keeping with the theme that atheists cannot fellowship together without the ability to denigrate religion, organizers of the atheist &#8220;Rock Beyond Belief&#8221; to be held at Fort Bragg have secured the explicit &#8220;guarantee&#8221; of the US Army that they can criticize religion &#8212; and people who are religious. 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