{"id":14344,"date":"2011-11-28T02:09:53","date_gmt":"2011-11-28T05:09:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/?p=14344"},"modified":"2011-11-28T02:09:53","modified_gmt":"2011-11-28T05:09:53","slug":"removal-of-army-chapel-cross-an-attack-on-christianity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/11\/28\/removal-of-army-chapel-cross-an-attack-on-christianity\/","title":{"rendered":"Removal of Army Chapel Cross an &#8220;Attack on Christianity&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>An unnamed US Soldier in Afghanistan took personal umbrage at the <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/11\/24\/us-army-removes-cross-from-afghan-chapel\/\">removal of a cross from the local chapel<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>U.S. soldiers assigned to Camp Marmal in northern Afghanistan said the removal of a cross from an Army chapel has created a \u201chuge controversy\u201d and at least one soldier called it a \u201cdirect attack against Christianity and Judaism.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>How Judaism plays into it isn&#8217;t exactly clear, but if the facts are correctly <a href=\"http:\/\/radio.foxnews.com\/toddstarnes\/daily-dispatch\/u-s-soldier-removing-cross-is-attack-on-christianity.html\">laid out in the article<\/a>, he may actually have a point:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The chapel is used for general Protestant services and a Baptist church service. There is a smaller chapel used for other services. The camp also has a mosque and a German chapel that is used for Catholic services.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In other words, every faith group has a place to &#8216;call their own.&#8217;\u00a0 What do you think the chances are the mosques are identifiably Islamic?<\/p>\n<p>Irrelevant, some will say:\u00a0 The regulation says <!--more-->no permanent symbols &#8212; even if one group is the sole user of the facility.\u00a0 They&#8217;d be right, even if that&#8217;s likely an overly burdensome interpretation of the intent of the regulation.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Former Army Captain and atheist Jason Torpy of the Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers went a step further, saying <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.militaryatheists.org\/2011\/11\/army-chapel-welcomes-all-and-privileges-none\/?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=army-chapel-welcomes-all-and-privileges-none\">the cross attacked religion<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Christians are calling this an attack on their religion.\u00a0 This implies that putting up a 6-foot cross on a prominent military facility is not an attack on all competing religions.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It is asinine to assert the display of one religious symbol is equivalently an attack on all other religions.\u00a0 (That&#8217;s not to say there aren&#8217;t symbols that attack religion, as will be discussed in the near future.)\u00a0 Torpy doesn&#8217;t stop there, however, claiming vicarious persecution:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The Muslims, Jews, humanists, atheists, and other non-Christians are likely to have felt as if they weren\u2019t fully members of the unit because of their beliefs.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>By what means is Torpy able to know what &#8220;non-Christians [were] likely to have felt?&#8221;\u00a0 It is already public knowledge that there were no complaints from Muslim or Jewish servicemembers.\u00a0 Torpy is using broad speculative generalities to appropriate a consensus of support where none exists.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, he&#8217;s making stuff up.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s equivalently as likely &#8220;Muslims, Jews, humanists, atheists, and other non-Christians are likely to have felt&#8221; <em>nothing <\/em>as they saw the cross &#8212; if they saw it at all &#8212; other than the cognitive recognition of the chapel facility.<\/p>\n<p>Similarly, when Christians walk by the two mosques on the same base, or when Muslims walk by the separate Catholic chapel, they don&#8217;t feel as though they are less of a person in the eyes of the US military.\u00a0 They just know they need to keep walking to find facilities intended to support other faith groups.<\/p>\n<p>This cannot always be the case.\u00a0 There are certainly times when the military can erect only a single tent &#8212; if that &#8212; to help its Soldiers exercise their religious freedoms.\u00a0 At those times, if more than one faith is present it certainly makes sense not to designate the area for a particular faith, or to mark it with permanent symbology.\u00a0 That is not to say the &#8220;chapel&#8221; converts to a &#8220;secular&#8221; building at all other times.\u00a0 The removal of icons representing specific ideologies is a demonstration of sensitivity to those of other faiths, not an attempt to avoid a perception of &#8220;preferential\u00a0treatment,&#8221; as Joe Conn of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianpost.com\/news\/removal-of-cross-from-army-chapel-in-afghanistan-stirs-controversy-63053\/\">Americans United for Separation of Church and State implied<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>However, if each represented faith group already <em>has <\/em>a designated area &#8212; much like many military facilities currently do &#8212; why do the areas designated for worship by a specific faith group need to be &#8220;neutralized&#8221; if no one else is using the facility?<\/p>\n<p>Well, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.christiantoday.com\/article\/us.army.removes.cross.from.chapel.in.afghanistan\/28952.htm\">the regulations say so<\/a>, that&#8217;s why.\u00a0 In other words, the regulations at issue inadequately recognize the current military environment.<\/p>\n<p>The solution?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cAs a soldier, I will follow the orders,\u201d he said.<br \/>\n\u00a0<br \/>\n\u201cMy fight is not to have the cross put back up,\u201d the solider [<em>sic<\/em>] told Fox News. \u201cMy fight is to have the regulation changed. My God is bigger than a wooden [symbol] and I don\u2019t need to defend Him.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That is <em>extremely <\/em>well said.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An unnamed US Soldier in Afghanistan took personal umbrage at the removal of a cross from the local chapel. U.S. soldiers assigned to Camp Marmal in northern Afghanistan said the removal of a cross from an Army chapel has created a \u201chuge controversy\u201d and at least one soldier called it a \u201cdirect attack against Christianity and Judaism.\u201d How Judaism plays [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[58,60,88,20,2281,54,38,96,162,44,253,39,2499,107,2,10,171],"class_list":["post-14344","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-government-and-religion","tag-afghanistan","tag-americans-united","tag-army","tag-atheism","tag-camp-marmal","tag-catholic","tag-chapel","tag-christian","tag-cross","tag-islam","tag-jason-torpy","tag-jewish","tag-joe-conn","tag-maaf","tag-military","tag-religion","tag-religious-freedom"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14344","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14344"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14344\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14344"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14344"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14344"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}