{"id":14317,"date":"2011-11-24T00:45:35","date_gmt":"2011-11-24T03:45:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/?p=14317"},"modified":"2011-11-24T01:14:22","modified_gmt":"2011-11-24T04:14:22","slug":"us-army-removes-cross-from-afghan-chapel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/11\/24\/us-army-removes-cross-from-afghan-chapel\/","title":{"rendered":"US Army Removes Cross from Afghan Chapel"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/radio.foxnews.com\/\/toddstarnes\/top-stories\/military-orders-cross-removed-from-chapel.html\">FoxNews repeats<\/a> the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.politico.com\/news\/stories\/1111\/69039.html\">Politico report<\/a> noting the US Army pulled a cross off the front of a US military chapel at Camp Marmal, Afghanistan, which was dedicated <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/10\/04\/troops-christen-new-chapel-in-afghanistan\/\">just a few months ago<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/www.christianfighterpilot.com\/images\/marmal.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"605\" height=\"328\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Before and after courtesy photo originally published at Politico.com.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>At first, this situation seems similar to the <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2008\/05\/29\/crosses-removed-from-army-chapel\/\">US Army&#8217;s removal of crosses from the chapel in Kosovo<\/a> a few years ago.<\/p>\n<p>However, the current issue is actually somewhat more complex.<\/p>\n<p>First, US military policies are not necessarily <!--more-->identical among the services.\u00a0 Most US military regulations generally acknowledge the necessary &#8220;neutrality&#8221; of chapel facilities, but that is not universal. \u00a0This is something Pentagon spokesman\u00a0William Speaks (Commander, US Navy) didn&#8217;t\u00a0seem to\u00a0understand, as he cited an Army regulation:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Speaks said it is his understanding that the rule applies not just to that particular camp \u2013 but all military chapels.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Many regulations\u00a0do\u00a0reference\u00a0<em>permanent<\/em> or &#8220;architectural&#8221; features (though, again, that is not universal).\u00a0 The Camp Marmal cross was apparently left hanging on the wall long-term, but there is nothing to prevent the chaplains from re-hanging the cross as often as they want &#8212; so long as it does not remain a permanent fixture.<\/p>\n<p>Second, its not actually a US military base:\u00a0 Camp Marmal is a German-run military facility.\u00a0 In theory, then, US military regulations wouldn&#8217;t apply.\u00a0 However, through an awkward arrangement, the US Army apparently has control over that particular building.\u00a0 So Army regulations apply to one building, but not necessarily the others &#8212; which makes for an odd contrast discussed below.<\/p>\n<p>Third, categorically saying US military chapel facilities <em>have<\/em> to be &#8220;religiously neutral&#8221; is\u00a0inaccurate.\u00a0 In fact, it is not unusual for US military bases to have specific-faith chapels when facilities exist for other faiths.<\/p>\n<p>As <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2008\/05\/29\/crosses-removed-from-army-chapel\/\">noted previously<\/a>, the world-famous US Air Force Academy chapel has a Protestant sanctuary with a 50-foot tall cross hanging at the front &#8212; quite permanently.\u00a0 It also has Jewish, Catholic, Muslim, and Buddhist sanctuaries, not to mention the &#8220;All Faiths&#8221; room and the outdoor <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/05\/09\/usaf-academy-chapel-dedicates-falcon-circle-for-pagans\/\">Cadet Chapel Falcon Circle<\/a> intended for pagans.\u00a0 While &#8220;ecumenical&#8221; meetings can be held in any space, USAFA regulations <em>specifically prohibit <\/em>&#8220;neutralizing&#8221; the faith-specific chapel areas.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, Air Force documents\u00a0specifically note<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Religious facilities should be geared toward meeting the needs of the <strong><em>majority religious population on the installation <\/em><\/strong>but should also provide adequate spaces for members of other organized religions on the installation. [emphasis added]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is relevant in this case because Camp Marmal has not one but <em>two<\/em> other <a href=\"http:\/\/www.isaf.nato.int\/article\/isaf-releases\/new-house-of-prayer-underscores-friendship-and-confidence.html\">faith specific chapels<\/a> &#8212; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.goodafghannews.com\/2010\/05\/11\/new-school-building-and-masjid-inaugurated-in-balkh-province\/\">both mosques<\/a>. While the Politico article notes the cross was removed after a complaint, servicemembers reported Jewish servicemembers had used the chapel <em>without <\/em>complaint.\u00a0 Consistent with the beliefs of the anonymous servicemembers quoted in the article, the &#8220;complaint&#8221; seems to have been both targeted &#8212; and vicarious.<\/p>\n<p>While a strong self-defense is a natural reaction, an overreaction to someone else&#8217;s hypersensitivity isn&#8217;t necessary, and it may not help.<\/p>\n<p>Does the removal smack of the seemingly increasing cultural hypersensitivity toward Christianity?\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 Does it inherently restrict the military members&#8217; free exercise?\u00a0 Not necessarily.\u00a0 Does it favor &#8212; or target &#8212; a religion?\u00a0 Perhaps, though the policy seems to be applied equally to the American facilities at Camp Marmal, even if not the other buildings there.<\/p>\n<p>In this case, Pentagon spokesman Commander William Speaks said<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;The removal was, in fact, in accordance with Army regulations&#8221; and [he] pointed out that the Army chaplain manual prohibits permanent display of religious symbols.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>They didn&#8217;t say it <em>couldn&#8217;t <\/em>be displayed &#8212; only that it couldn&#8217;t be displayed <em>permanently<\/em>.\u00a0 The chaplains at Camp Marmal should follow the regulations (as they have), as the military leadership has interpreted them.<\/p>\n<p>And they should raise the cross at every opportunity.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>FoxNews repeats the Politico report noting the US Army pulled a cross off the front of a US military chapel at Camp Marmal, Afghanistan, which was dedicated just a few months ago. Before and after courtesy photo originally published at Politico.com. At first, this situation seems similar to the US Army&#8217;s removal of crosses from the chapel in Kosovo a [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[58,88,37,2281,38,5284,96,162,44,39,79,2,76,63,2497,10,171,65,2498],"class_list":["post-14317","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-government-and-religion","tag-afghanistan","tag-army","tag-buddhism","tag-camp-marmal","tag-chapel","tag-chaplain","tag-christian","tag-cross","tag-islam","tag-jewish","tag-kosovo","tag-military","tag-pagan","tag-pentagon","tag-politico","tag-religion","tag-religious-freedom","tag-usafa","tag-william-speaks"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14317","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14317"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14317\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14317"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14317"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14317"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}