{"id":12707,"date":"2011-08-26T02:00:25","date_gmt":"2011-08-26T07:00:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/?p=12707"},"modified":"2015-06-27T19:15:11","modified_gmt":"2015-06-27T22:15:11","slug":"fort-bragg-atheists-thank-garrison-commander","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/08\/26\/fort-bragg-atheists-thank-garrison-commander\/","title":{"rendered":"Fort Bragg Atheists Thank Garrison Commander"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In a rare display of gratitude toward the Army, the organizers of &#8220;Rock Beyond Belief&#8221; called on their supporters to &#8220;thank&#8221; Fort Bragg garrison commander Col Stephen Sicinski.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, they still managed to insult him in the <a href=\"http:\/\/rockbeyondbelief.com\/2011\/08\/19\/thank-you-fort-bragg\/\">same paragraph<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Rock Beyond Belief\u2019s earliest attempts were not taken seriously by Fort Bragg, as visitors may remember.<br \/>\n\u00a0<br \/>\nHowever, the situation has changed drastically in the months since our first approach fell through. Fort Bragg\u2019s Garrison Commander, Colonel Sicinski has made the right call, and has now approved our event with the full government support that was promised.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The person who was responsible for seeing they &#8220;were not taken seriously&#8221; &#8212; in the words of RBB &#8212; was, <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/03\/04\/rock-beyond-belief-cancelled-weinstein-promises-lawsuit\/\">of course, Col Sicinski<\/a>.\u00a0 Still, Col Sicinski <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/03\/09\/rock-beyond-belief-the-truth-comes-out\/\">maintained the high ground<\/a> and continued to say he was supportive of the atheists&#8217; efforts &#8212; if only <!--more-->they would meet the same basic requirements any other group had to.<\/p>\n<p>Now they <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/08\/09\/us-army-to-fund-atheist-rock-beyond-belief\/\">seem to have done so<\/a>, and Col Sicinski has provided the same support he has always promised (though that&#8217;s hardly &#8220;full government support&#8221;).<\/p>\n<p>So its <em>good <\/em>they should thank Col Sicinski for his support.<\/p>\n<p>It would be nice if they also retracted and apologized for the invective directed at Col Sicinski, Fort Bragg, and the US Army in the interim.<\/p>\n<p>Michael Weinstein, for example, while representing <em>&#8220;<\/em>Rock Beyond Belief&#8221; and speaking on their behalf, said <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/03\/07\/michael-weinstein-equates-us-army-with-racists-rapists\/\">the military&#8217;s treatment of RBB<\/a> was &#8220;consitutional perversion&#8230;by fundamentalist Christian religious predators.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Notably, the treatment hasn&#8217;t changed.\u00a0 The only (public) thing that has changed since &#8220;Rock Beyond Belief&#8221; was <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/02\/28\/fort-bragg-to-host-atheist-counter-event\/\">approved the first time<\/a> is that &#8220;Rock Beyond Belief&#8221; now <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/05\/16\/military-atheist-festival-at-fort-bragg-gets-funded\/\">has its own money<\/a>, as opposed to demanding the <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/08\/09\/us-army-to-fund-atheist-rock-beyond-belief\/\">Army (or Christians)<\/a> fund the atheist event.<\/p>\n<p>Since the treatment hasn&#8217;t changed, and its unlikely they&#8217;d be &#8220;thanking&#8221; the Army for &#8220;consitutional perversion,&#8221; they must now disagree with that characterization.\u00a0 They should disavow it.<\/p>\n<p>It would probably be prudent to cancel Michael Weinstein&#8217;s planned appearance at &#8220;Rock Beyond Belief.&#8221;\u00a0 If he refuses to join the conciliatory and supportive tune of the RBB organizers, they should disavow him, as well.<\/p>\n<p>Positive stories <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/07\/15\/rock-beyond-belief-praises-the-military-chaplaincy\/\">like these<\/a> (despite the occasional sarcastic or spiteful aside) are not typical of the <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2010\/06\/23\/gazette-chronicles-weinstein-method\/\">Weinstein method<\/a>, and indicate there may yet be hope that US Army atheists can be &#8220;represented&#8221; by a positive and supportive effort that &#8220;celebrates&#8221; their beliefs in their own right, rather than at the expense of others.\u00a0 (Notably, the last time &#8220;Rock Beyond Belief&#8221; put out a <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/07\/15\/rock-beyond-belief-praises-the-military-chaplaincy\/\">positive message<\/a>, the MRFF&#8217;s Chris Rodda felt the need to &#8220;rebut&#8221; it, apparently because the positive theme contradicts the MRFF agenda.\u00a0 That&#8217;s a role she has <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/03\/30\/islamic-us-soldier-worships-with-local-afghans\/#comment-17438\">played more than once<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>Regrettably, Michael Weinstein has once again used military members &#8212; in this case, an atheist Army Sergeant &#8212; to further <em>his <\/em>agenda even against the success of <em>theirs<\/em>.\u00a0 Weinstein has demonstrated before his <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/02\/10\/usafa-lawsuit-dismissed-weinstein-goes-0-for-4\/\">lack of concern for the causes of his &#8220;clients.&#8221;<\/a>\u00a0 They are simply <a href=\"http:\/\/christianfighterpilot.com\/blog\/2011\/06\/28\/mrff-supporters-validate-weinsteins-agenda\/\">pawns to advance his cause<\/a>, discarded when their public relations (that is, fundraising)\u00a0value wanes.<\/p>\n<p>Given his history, these US Army atheists would be better off firing Weinstein.\u00a0 Then, if their\u00a0positive stories (though muted by Chris Rodda)\u00a0are any indication,\u00a0they can move forward &#8212; 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