Perkins, King Sound Warning on Hostility Toward Christianity
Joining the theme of Rick Perry’s statements that President Obama had a “war on religion,” Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council called the Obama administration “hostile to Christianity.”
“You can’t judge what’s in somebody’s heart or their administration, but you can judge them by the fruits of their labors,” Perkins said. “The fruit of this administration shows it is hostile to Christianity.”
He was referring to the Walter Reed policy banning religious items (specifically, Bibles) within the US military medical facility. By contrast, the Washington Times noted the government goes the extra mile to make sure detainees at Guantanamo have access to the Koran.
We shouldn’t really be surprised when a bureaucrat tries to bar Bibles in a U.S. military stateside hospital while other bureaucrats make sure terrorists in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, get copies of the Koran.
You almost have to feel sorry for poor Col. [C.W] Callahan, [Walter Reed’s Chief of Staff,] who is part of the new metrosexual military, which values “diversity” more than combat readiness, so long as it doesn’t include Christianity.
On the same topic, US Representative Steve King (R-IA) implied the necessity of a proactive, rather than a passive, response to those who would restrict religious freedom (or attack Christianity) in the military:
King said that the only way to prevent future attacks on American freedoms was to reverse the process in the first place…
“Any time we weigh in on the side of goodness, faith and justice, we make the world a better place,” he said. “The greater the objection is, the less likely they are to make another try.”
Further, he said an offense, not just a defense, may be required:
“Whatever kind of militant atheist-ism [sic] might bring about a rule like this, it isn’t good enough just to stop the rule,” he states. “It’s also important that we move back into the affirmative. We go on offense and take something back from the people who come after the things that we believe.”
Congressman Randy Forbes (R-VA) similarly noted the need to root out the cause of the problem that generated the questionable policy
because what they will always use is the excuse du jour [that] somebody complained because someone was proselytizing them.
The liar Tony perkins lies. Next up, we reveal the religious faith of the pope.
To lie is to intentionally make a false statement of fact. If you would like to point out where Perkins lied, please cite it. You may not agree with his opinions, but you can oppose those with ideas of your own without stooping to name-calling.
Bibles were not banned. Thus The Liar Tony Perkins lied.
This never happened. He is a liar.
Now, perhaps you can explain to me exactly how any marriage would have been defended if my friends marriage had been illegal..
@Donalbain
The Walter Reed policy explicitly said Bibles were not permitted. Walter Reed now says that’s not what they meant, but that doesn’t change the fact that’s what the policy said — which is why they rescinded it. Where is the falsehood in Perkins’ statement?
“We’re talking about the ability of family members to read from a Bible to their wounded or even dying family members who fought to defend that same liberty. If the freedom of those who have sworn to give their lives defending such freedoms can be taken away, what can we expect for the rest of us?”
That never happened. You cant point to ANY family who were prevented from doing it. Just like you cant point to any family that is defended when gays cannot get married.
@Donalbain
The policy did happen. No one said the policy was enforced — only that it was in place. Does a “whites only” sign above a water fountain only become offensive when it is enforced?
“We’re talking about the ability of family members to read from a Bible to their wounded or even dying family members who fought to defend that same liberty. If the freedom of those who have sworn to give their lives defending such freedoms can be taken away, what can we expect for the rest of us?”
Which family had this ability taken away from them?
And as it happens there never was ANY policy about reading to anyone from the Bible.. was there?
@Donalbain
Your attempts to parse are entertaining but futile — one can read something without using it? Were the policy on anything but religion, your reaction would likely be different.
Oh.. now you know what my reaction would likely be? Interesting attempt at mind reading. Now, can you please tell me any family who were prevented from reading from or giving, a bible? And can you explain whose marriage is defended when gays are banned from marrying?
Also, it would be nice if you could explain what policy you believe is against the morals of most American citizens in THIS story: http://christianfighterpilot.com/blog/2011/12/08/new-rick-perry-ad-vows-end-to-obamas-war-on-religio
@Donalbain
Far from any hostility towards Christians is Christian hostitlity toward non-Christians and Non-believers.
There is a bias toward Christianity, not only in secular life but in government, armed forces and industry.
This bias is actually a planned doctrine of Reconstructionist Christianity which calls for dominion over all other beliefs.
Christian hostility to all other belief systems is well known and the militant pursuit of he “Great Commission,” which apparently enables Christians to venture far beyond Constitional limitations is no more than a “convert or die” Christian program.
There is no hostility toward Christans but a growing defense against the Christian hostility for all other faiths and non-beliefs.
Fundamental Evangelical Christianity, in itself, and it’s practice of militant proselytizing has caused thinking people to question its direction.
To protect and effectively uphold the consitution and the separation of chuch and state, measures often have to be taken to admonish certain Christian sects and organizations who push the envelope of religious freedom to its limits and beyond.
No longer can good American citizens look the other way when egregious constitutional violations take place and Fundamentalist Christian Dominionism raises its ugly head.
Religion, like any other civic responisibility must remain within the parameters established for it in the First Amendment and all the rulings and decisions by the US Supreme Court made a part thereof. There is no room in America for a religion that cannot be consistent with Constitutional provision and civil law. Freedom of religion is not absolute as are none of the other rights listed in the Bill of Rights.
Christianity must be practiced with all the rights of others taken into consideration. To do otherwise is to create dominion over other religions and the state. World domination and conversion to Dominion oriented Christianity is a stated goal of Christian Reconstructionists and Christian Dominionists. This form of religion practice differs little from both Christian and political hegemony throughout history in which domination of world populations is the main mission.
Through fear, threat and strength of coercive persuasion, Dominion Christian leaders control the thoughts of millions in America and a formidable force of obedient and compliant sycophants in the United States Armed Forces. The latter is a threat of gargantuan proportions given their proximity to weapons of immense destructive power, the means, skill and opportunity to deploy them.
Not being prone to consspiracy theories, I am always hesitant to assign conspiracy to political and religious movements but I can assure you that Dominionist Christianity is a cabal of world stature with the headquarters in the heart of America.
It is unfortunate that Christian doctrines often conflict with the constitution because of Christianity’s absolute belief system. Christian Supremacy is tangible and visible in many of our Christian organizations ansd churches.
Pat Robetrtson’s Christian Coalition, Jerry Falwell’s “Moral Majority,” Focus on the Family, American Family Institute, Dominion Ministries International, Family Research Council, Ku Klux Klan, Hutaree Christian Militias, The Army of God, New Apostolic Movement, The Lord’s Resistance Army, The Covenant, The Navigators, Operation Rescue, The Family and literally hundreds more. A complete list of Christian Dominionist and terror groups is available from the Southern Poverty Law Centter which monitors all hate and extreme religious organizations in America.
The Dominion Christian movement is engaged in the process of expanding its influence in America by testing the resolve of law enforcement agencies to contain religious violations of constitutional provision, state and federal laws and armed forces uniform code of military justice.
Dominionists use moderate Christianity and its majority in America to obscure its real intent and is able to get by many safeguards because of the immunity Christianity has enjoyed in America for centuries.
It is gratifying that a few organizations have detected Dominionists efforts and have formed into effective opposition. The Military Religious Freedom Foundation is one such opposer of Christian hegemony and is effectiveley addressing thousands of client complaint cases of inapropriate Christian proselytizing in the military. Americans United for the Separation of Church and State is another, addressing educational and corporate issues as they relate to Dominion Christianity.
It is yet to be determined the total damage wrought by Dominionism but is substantial and persistent. Hopefully good men and women will stand against dominionism, which is the antithesis of Democracy.
[b]”Not being prone to consspiracy theories”[/b]
HA HA HA. Thanks for the laugh Richard. I haven’t laughed that hard in a long time. Not being prone to consspiracy theories”
Oh my god, my side is aching. You’re NUTS.
Oh and…Merry Christmas!
@Martin
You may well laugh Martin but you will unknowingly be laughing at yourself. By discounting those things which I have said, you have, as most enslaved minds denounced fact.
But what can one expect from those who are so immersed in their misguided faith than to express the derision and sorow for their loss of intellect?
In your delusional beliefs you are lost to reason and humanity. You are an outcast, a pariah among thinking people. You have become ancient and unnecessary.
Oh, and Merry Chrisdtmas to you too.
I know you are, but what am I?
At any rate…as an Aerospace Engineer, I have a hard time thinking I am ancient and unnecessary.
I also have a hard time believe that I have suffered from a loss of intellect. I am surrounded by thinking people. We just think bigger than you.
But if you say so. ;-)
@Martin
Hi Martin. You are not ancient and unnecessary as a first cabin Aerospace engineer. It is only your sujective religious fantasies that place you among the lost.
It is surprising to me that one so far advanced in scientific research is so chained to the archaic religious hoopla that marginalizes so many Americans.
There is a hole in your life that you seek to fill with religion when, in fact, it should be filled with human endeavor.
You are crippled by your faith. You struggle to advance your scientific education while at the same time hoping not to contradict your beliefs.
Tough call. Perhapos it’s time to combine them.
Richard,
I realize that you and I can never agree on this subject. You look at the world and say “All I see is science…or, an accident, or a set of random occurances without meaning or design” and I look at the world and say “I see a design in everything, from DNA to the molecular makeup of the universe, I see intent and order that is not random and cannot be accidental” I see a miracle and beautiful design…science doesn’t contradict that…it reinforces it.
There are two types of people in this world; those that see God in everything, and those that see God in nothing.
@Martin
Martin, your point is well made. There is as much of a chance that an intelligent designer cobbled this universe together as there is for an accidental explosion to have done it.
My problem with the religious is that they settle on one belief and won’t give natural creation any credibility.
Until and unless credible imperical evidence of a creator exists or some discovery that confirms natural creation we are still on boths sides of theory.
While I freely admit the possibility that a super force may exist I believe that science debunks more than it confirms about religion.
It could also be that vision is not dependent on reality and parallell scenarios may well exist.
I am not against God, I am for reason. Irrationally held truths may be more harmful than reasoned errors.
One thing we do know is that all the raw materials for life exist in the universe. We also know that all the conditions for them to come together through natural processes also exist.
Given the record of early Hominids alone and the evolution into present day man, the story of Adam and Eve has been effectively debunked. The Ark saving two of every species is comical. If religion is to prevail as the prime mover for universal life, it will have to, itelf, become a lot more scientific. Relying on folklore, fairy tales, talking snakes and legend in which fantastic winged creatures fly around and horned and hoofed demons tempt humans into sin cannot for much longer compete with even the basic concept of the natural birth and evolution of life in the universe.
Science has identified the scientific building blocks of life, where they exist and in what fashion they could have created life. The big question is not how the Univers and life came to be but why? Until that question is answered religion must remain simply a pacifier and blanket for those who need succor.